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Date:         Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:56:06 -0700
Reply-To:     Zoran Mladen <zmaninco@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Zoran Mladen <zmaninco@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Gear oil in the Automatic fluid
Comments: To: Michael Tevis <michaeltevis@HOTMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <vanagon%2009032901280620@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
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I suspect Daryl will have the best input to this. I can offer my personal experience.  I have replaced the seperator seals on many auto trannies that were leaking between the halves.  In every case, replacing the seals stopped the leaking and the tranny worked well afterwards with no issues.  So I am a believer in simply replacing the seals. You should also check the governor seal as that is another potential mixing area.  Easy to replace, especially if you have the tranny on a bench. Z ________________________________ From: Michael Tevis <michaeltevis@HOTMAIL.COM> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:20:15 PM Subject: Gear oil in the Automatic fluid Hello group, I have a customer who has gear oil in their automatic fluid. I did some research (both on the archives here and several other sites) and found which seals are commonly to blame. I called one of the major Vanagon parts retailers and told them the problem with the automatic and that I needed the seals to fix it. I didn't receive the mainshaft seals that go back to back and those are the ones that seem to be to blame. So, I called the major transmission rebuilder in Oregon who does automatics and a major one here in california and they both told me that the transmission needs a rebuild because the differential bearings wear cause the mainshaft to have some play and then the seals go bad. They both said that was the only cause of the seal failure. Who am I to argue with people who rebuild them for a living? It's just tha in the past on several forums nothing about the bearing was mentioned, just the seals. On this trasmission the bearings on the differential on the sides where the output flanges are seem quite tight. Seemingly not enough to make a shaft that doesnt even ride on them wobble enough to make a leak. Now that the fluids have exchanged a rebuild may be due because the clutches might be soaked in gear oil and the differential might be damaged if it has been running in thin automatic fluid. Assuming this problem was caught quickly and those parts are ok is a rebuild really necessary or is it really ALWAYS a sign of worn differential bearings? thanks!


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