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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:47:34 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Trying To Understand Tie rod Adjustments
Comments: To: neil N <musomuso@gmail.com>
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hi Neil. camber is easy....... makes me wonder if you are really clear about which adjustment the camber is..... I think you do know that camber is whether the tire/wheel is exactly upright, or tilted inward ( negative camber ) or tilted outward ( positive camber ) .

I always think of a bicycle wheel...........when you turn it ......depending on steering head angle somewhat ....... when you turn it , the front tire is very tilted in the direction it's going to go.

too much positive camber ( tire leaning out ) on the right front will cause a pull to the right. ( or, not enough negative camber there - same thing )

it's adjusted by the large eccentric bolt going through the upper a-arm inner bushings. Takes a 12mm allen wrench I think.

be interesting to see what an alignment shop says about your van now that you've done a major re-do on the front end. Scott

----- Original Message ----- From: "neil N" <musomuso@gmail.com> To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> Cc: <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 1:50 PM Subject: Re: Trying To Understand Tie rod Adjustments

2009/4/12 Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>: > right........ > but we're not talking about 'on a rack at the alignment shop' are we ? > > We're talking about back yard............shade trees mechanicin' > ............... > > and........I'm curious - is Neil's goal to get it good enough to drive to > an > alignment shop, > or get it good enough for real road use ? > I get them quite good with just back yard methods. .. > and ................( on no ! ) no centerline reference point. > > ok.......trivia question....... > name a mass-produced four door hatchback car from a Euupean car company > ..... > with a wheel base that is shorter by a solid 3 inches or so on the right > side, than on the left side . > ( and if you tweak the torsion bar preloads incorrectly......you can get > oversteer turning one direction, > and understeer turning the other direction - lots of fun ) . > > Scott >

The original goal; align things by my "shade tree" hand so I could drive it.

Current goal: see if changing castor on passenger side help RH drift. Mostly for learning.

I will take it to a shop. If my adjustment corrects drift, I'll be curious to see how close i got toe and castor. (I'm not dicking with the camber)

Neil.

-- Neil Nicholson '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco"

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