Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:31:14 -0700
Reply-To: dylan friedman <insyncro@YAHOO.COM>
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From: dylan friedman <insyncro@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Disc Brake Setup Photos
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Add a brake bias control and you are not stuck with stock parameters.
Rear disc are essential for my EG33 Syncro vans as I tow often and can adjust my braking for road conditions and or load.
The stock Vanagon brakes work excellent in a 2wd non camper.
Add the weight of the Westy stuff and a Syncro driveline and it will show the whimpiness quickly in panic stops.
dylan
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From: Greg Potts <greg@POTTSFAMILY.CA>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 10:32:06 AM
Subject: Re: Disc Brake Setup Photos
Hi Doug,
I don't think that rear disks are the best place to invest when trying to add stopping power.
Basic physics will tell you that the weight transfers to the front of the van when stopping. The rear brakes will do less than 30% of the stopping; and that gets progressively less with your need to stop quicker.
Better tires (stickier rubber), better wheels (wider, for a better contact patch, lighter for less rotating mass) and suspension upgrades (stiffer to lessen weight transfer and improve handling) need to be implemented before the improved performance of rear disks will be noticeable.
Rear disks as an upgrade on an otherwise stock vanagon would be a waste of $$$ in my opinion; though they would certainly be worth looking at if all the above upgrades have left you with a below-par vanagon experience.
Greg
Quoting Doug Alcock <doug.alcock@GMAIL.COM>:
> I'd sure like some more stopping power..............
>
> Doug
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>
>> Do we need these? Are my brakes about to fail and send me plunging me into
>> a ravine to a screaming death in twisted steel and fire?
>>
>> <frets>
>>
>> --
>> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
>> 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
>> 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
>> Bend, OR
>> KG6RCR
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/6/2009 12:56 PM Raimund Feussner wrote:
>>
>> Hi listmembers,
>>>
>>> as some of you know, I developed a 4-disc brake setup for our Vanagons.
>>> Since spring is on its way and the next Syncro-Meetings and other big
>>> Vanagon meetings in Germany are about to start, I built a custom set of
>>> my brakes just for display purposes.
>>>
>>> All black parts are freshly powder coated and also, total genuine
>>> VW/Audi parts!
>>>
>>> I havn´t shipped one of these sets to the US, but if anyone is
>>> interested, we will find a way...
>>>
>>> Here are the photos:
>>> First: 2WD front
>>> Second: 4WD front (caliper gets mounted tomorrow)
>>> Third: 2WD/4WD rear
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.v6bus.de/2WD.jpg
>>> http://www.v6bus.de/4WD.jpg
>>> http://www.v6bus.de/HA.jpg
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Raimund
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> http://www.dougalcock.com
>
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