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Date:         Tue, 12 May 2009 00:50:37 -0400
Reply-To:     Robert Stewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Robert Stewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
Subject:      Custom Oil/Tranny Coolers for automatic vanagon
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Hi everyone,

Has anyone here installed a custom 3rd party Oil or Tranny cooler in an automatic 2.1L ?

Bus Boys has some that they claim are for the Vanagon and I am considering installing one for the oil and tranny fluids in front of the existing front radiator.

My rebuilt engine is going in later this week, looks great. It should

with over $2k in parts in it! Now I just want to keep it running well.

So the idea of adding extra cooling seems like a sound concept.

Ten Cent life on the Samba installed one using a sandwich system that

uses the existing cooler.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=193593 http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=102662

Check this sandwich adapter: http://www.bahnbrenner.com/media/php/catalog.php?pid=1395&opt_id= http://www.bahnbrenner.com/vw_audi/products/1386/Mocal_19_Row_Heat_Exchanger

I am trying to copy this European design: http://www.syncro-bernd-jaeger.de/ENGLISH/Olkuhleranlage/olkuhleranlage.html

What are the proper kind rubber reinforced tubing needed? PSI level, size, location, mounting, connectors, etc?

Dennis sent me to this site: pegasusautoracing.com He thought this product would be good, does anyone have any other recommendations? 1210-13-8AN

13 Row Full Width Oil Cooler - 8 AN $134.99

Small Car has a unit for the tranny $159: http://www.smallcar.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=83 Comes with everything you need. "Automatic Vanagons have a factory installed transmission cooler that

uses engine coolant and the radiator to cool the fluid. This adds the

transmission cooling load to the engine cooling system (this is less than ideal) and the results of a failure of this cooler are disastrous

for both the transmission and the cooling system.

Our cooler kit keeps the two systems separate and does a better job of

keeping the transmission fluid cool in very hot weather. Additionally,

a failure in the system results in only a fluid leak that is easily repaired.

Recommended for all automatic Vanagons including those with the higher

horsepower Subaru engines.

Our kit includes all the neccessary hardware and does not require any

drilling or tapping of the transmission, It can be installed without removal of the transmission. The two 5/8" hoses to the original cooler

can be bypassed with this mender or can be rerouted to bypass the area

entirely.

The recommended mounting position is between the frame rails on the driver's side just in front of the transmission.

Price: $159.00"

http://www.bus-boys.com/oilcoolingremote.html

heres the text from their site: The ultimate in cooling efficiency, Race-Trim™ stacked-plate design

offers maximum cooling with almost bullet-proof strength. Aircraft quality aluminum, fluxless oven brazed construction. Cross-path airflow effectively cools oil as air passes through as many as 16 paths across sturdy embossed plates. Insignificant pressure drop, twice the cooling in half the size. Painted black for fast heat dissipation. Fitted with 1/2 inch female pipe thread fittings. The best system for your Bus or Vanagon.

Key Part No. Description/Application/Price

Part Numbers in Italics - Call For Availability

Coolers & Cooler Kits

ZAP-11790 Oil Cooler Only, 96 Plate (Measurements: 1.5" X 11" X 11") $113.00

ZAP-11791 Oil Cooler Only, 72 Plate (Measurements: 1.5" X 8" X 11") $85.30

ZAP-11710 Oil Cooler Kit Complete, 96 Plate, Bus with Upright 1600 Eliminates the Stock Cooler $136.00

ZAP-11711 Oil Cooler Kit Complete, 72 Plate, Bus with Upright 1600 Eliminates the Stock Cooler $109.00

ZAP-11700 Oil Cooler Kit Complete, 96 Plate with Direct Oil Filter Block Off & Remote Oil Filter Mount, Bus 1700/1800/2000 1972 to 1979

$147.50

ZAP-11701 Oil Cooler Kit Complete, 72 Plate with Direct Oil Filter Block Off & Remote Oil Filter Mount, Bus 1700/1800/2000 1972 to 1979

$122.20

ZAP-11705 Oil Cooler Kit Complete, 72 Plate with "Sandwich" Oil Filter Adaptor $132.00

NOTE: ZAP-11705 is recommended only for Vanagon Wasserboxers from 1983 to 1985. Will not fit 1986 to 1991 models due to OEM oil cooler

design on filter mounting. Recommend using ZAP-11701 above for these

applications.


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