Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 02:30:15 -0400
Reply-To: Robert Stewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
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From: Robert Stewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
Subject: Re: Anyone have a 3rd Party External Oil Cooler or Transmission
Cooler installed?
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Dennis At what location can I get this "Aeroquip socketless hose"
Also what sizes am I going to need? I will get it for oil cooler,
Small car says there Tranny system has been working as is for years
without any issue.
Is this something I can get an autozone or Napa if I bring them the
parts?
Robert
On May 19, 2009, at 7:34 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
> I would not use any hose relying on clamps for the oil cooler.
> Especially
> for winter operation. If you do always travel with 5 quarts of oil
> and tools
> to re-attach the hoses. BTDT to many times. Aeroquip socketless
> hose. I have
> had better results with that than even the stainless braided stuff.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Robert Stewart
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:59 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Anyone have a 3rd Party External Oil Cooler or Transmission
> Cooler
> installed?
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I just purchased the Bus Boys Oil Cooler kit and the Small Car
> Performance Tranny Cooler System for my 2.1L Automatic Wolfsburg. The
> engine was just rebuilt and is going back in the van at the end of the
> week once these parts come in. I also ordered the GoWesty Coolant Pipe
> Fix system and am replacing all coolant hoses, heater hoses and fuel
> lines before I make a cross country trip this summer.
>
> I was wondering if there are any issues to be concerned with regarding
> these Coolers?
>
> Small car tells me to mount the Tranny Cooler on drivers side of the
> tranny in front of the rear wheel. I asked about possibly angling the
> unit with a pitched 15 degree front downward angle and they said you
> could but it was not necessary as they have been installing these
> units in their Vanagons and Subie/Vanagon upgrades for years with no
> cooling issues in that position. Anyone have another placement
> option? I am told if I located it there since it's a short distance it
> will only need a 1 Quart of additional ATF.
>
> When I spoke to Bus Boys they said to mount it either under the van
> next to the Tranny cooler or in the engine bay. I could place the Oil
> cooler on the left side of the engine as there is a space to the left
> of the Coolant Container, but I am not sure it would get enough air
> flow. My thought was to place it under the van. Thoughts anyone? (Yes
> I have read the threads on the Samba by TenCent life and his system,
> but I don't want to cut into any parts of the van.)*
>
> Regards,
> Robert
> NY
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> Here are the details of what I purchased if anyone is interested:
>
> Transmission Cooler
> http://www.smallcar.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=83
>
> Product Information
>
> NEW - Includes mounting hardware.
>
> Automatic Vanagons have a factory installed transmission cooler that
> uses engine coolant and the radiator to cool the fluid. This adds the
> transmission cooling load to the engine cooling system (this is less
> than ideal) and the results of a failure of this cooler are disastrous
> for both the transmission and the cooling system.
>
> Our cooler kit keeps the two systems separate and does a better job of
> keeping the transmission fluid cool in very hot weather. Additionally,
> a failure in the system results in only a fluid leak that is easily
> repaired.
>
> Recommended for all automatic Vanagons including those with the higher
> horsepower Subaru engines.
>
> Our kit includes all the neccessary hardware and does not require any
> drilling or tapping of the transmission, It can be installed without
> removal of the transmission. The two 5/8" hoses to the original cooler
> can be bypassed with this mender or can be rerouted to bypass the area
> entirely.
>
> The recommended mounting position is between the frame rails on the
> driver's side just in front of the transmission.
>
> Price: $159.00
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Oil
>
> http://www.bus-boys.com/oilcoolingremote.html
>
> Part # 11705 $132
>
> Part # 11780 $79.35
>
> Oil Coolers and Accessories
> Type 2 & Vanagon
>
> Race-Trim™ Oil Cooler Systems
>
> The ultimate in cooling efficiency, Race-Trim™ stacked-plate design
> offers maximum cooling with almost bullet-proof strength. Aircraft
> quality aluminum, fluxless oven brazed construction. Cross-path
> airflow effectively cools oil as air passes through as many as 16
> paths across sturdy embossed plates. Insignificant pressure drop,
> twice the cooling in half the size. Painted black for fast heat
> dissipation. Fitted with 1/2 inch female pipe thread fittings. The
> best system for your Bus or Vanagon.
>
> Key Part No. Description/Application/Price
>
> Part Numbers in Italics - Call For Availability
>
> Coolers & Cooler Kits
>
> ZAP-11705 Oil Cooler Kit Complete, 72 Plate with "Sandwich" Oil
> Filter Adaptor $132.00
>
> NOTE: ZAP-11705 is recommended only for Vanagon Wasserboxers from
> 1983 to 1985. Will not fit 1986 to 1991 models due to OEM oil cooler
> design on filter mounting. Recommend using ZAP-11701 above for these
> applications.
>
> Separate Oil Cooler System Parts
>
> ZAP-11780 Oil Thermostat. Opens at 175º F. Bypasses Oil Cooler
> Below 175º for Quick Warm-Up. Includes Fittings and Clamps. $79.35
>
> NOTE: This thermostat must be installed between the oil filter and
> cooler for proper operation. Strongly recommended for proper engine
> warm-up in cool weather operation.
>
> IMPORTANT NOTE: Cooler hoses/systems must be installed in this
> order. Engine to oil filter to thermostat (if used) to cooler and
> then back to the engine. Hot oil must be filtered first before it is
> cooled for best flow.
>
>
> Order Toll Free (800)792-2697 | Information (530)244-1616 | 24 Hour
> Fax (530)244-0933
>
>
>
> This is the product you are getting:
>
> model is 9217 for vanagon dimensions are 11 X 8 X 1.5
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