Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:59:22 -0400
Reply-To: Robert Stewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Robert Stewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
Subject: Anyone have a 3rd Party External Oil Cooler or Transmission
Cooler installed?
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Hello Everyone,
I just purchased the Bus Boys Oil Cooler kit and the Small Car
Performance Tranny Cooler System for my 2.1L Automatic Wolfsburg. The
engine was just rebuilt and is going back in the van at the end of the
week once these parts come in. I also ordered the GoWesty Coolant Pipe
Fix system and am replacing all coolant hoses, heater hoses and fuel
lines before I make a cross country trip this summer.
I was wondering if there are any issues to be concerned with regarding
these Coolers?
Small car tells me to mount the Tranny Cooler on drivers side of the
tranny in front of the rear wheel. I asked about possibly angling the
unit with a pitched 15 degree front downward angle and they said you
could but it was not necessary as they have been installing these
units in their Vanagons and Subie/Vanagon upgrades for years with no
cooling issues in that position. Anyone have another placement
option? I am told if I located it there since it's a short distance it
will only need a 1 Quart of additional ATF.
When I spoke to Bus Boys they said to mount it either under the van
next to the Tranny cooler or in the engine bay. I could place the Oil
cooler on the left side of the engine as there is a space to the left
of the Coolant Container, but I am not sure it would get enough air
flow. My thought was to place it under the van. Thoughts anyone? (Yes
I have read the threads on the Samba by TenCent life and his system,
but I don't want to cut into any parts of the van.)*
Regards,
Robert
NY
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Here are the details of what I purchased if anyone is interested:
Transmission Cooler
http://www.smallcar.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=83
Product Information
NEW - Includes mounting hardware.
Automatic Vanagons have a factory installed transmission cooler that
uses engine coolant and the radiator to cool the fluid. This adds the
transmission cooling load to the engine cooling system (this is less
than ideal) and the results of a failure of this cooler are disastrous
for both the transmission and the cooling system.
Our cooler kit keeps the two systems separate and does a better job of
keeping the transmission fluid cool in very hot weather. Additionally,
a failure in the system results in only a fluid leak that is easily
repaired.
Recommended for all automatic Vanagons including those with the higher
horsepower Subaru engines.
Our kit includes all the neccessary hardware and does not require any
drilling or tapping of the transmission, It can be installed without
removal of the transmission. The two 5/8" hoses to the original cooler
can be bypassed with this mender or can be rerouted to bypass the area
entirely.
The recommended mounting position is between the frame rails on the
driver's side just in front of the transmission.
Price: $159.00
Oil
http://www.bus-boys.com/oilcoolingremote.html
Part # 11705 $132
Part # 11780 $79.35
Oil Coolers and Accessories
Type 2 & Vanagon
Race-Trim™ Oil Cooler Systems
The ultimate in cooling efficiency, Race-Trim™ stacked-plate design
offers maximum cooling with almost bullet-proof strength. Aircraft
quality aluminum, fluxless oven brazed construction. Cross-path
airflow effectively cools oil as air passes through as many as 16
paths across sturdy embossed plates. Insignificant pressure drop,
twice the cooling in half the size. Painted black for fast heat
dissipation. Fitted with 1/2 inch female pipe thread fittings. The
best system for your Bus or Vanagon.
Key Part No. Description/Application/Price
Part Numbers in Italics - Call For Availability
Coolers & Cooler Kits
ZAP-11705 Oil Cooler Kit Complete, 72 Plate with "Sandwich" Oil
Filter Adaptor $132.00
NOTE: ZAP-11705 is recommended only for Vanagon Wasserboxers from
1983 to 1985. Will not fit 1986 to 1991 models due to OEM oil cooler
design on filter mounting. Recommend using ZAP-11701 above for these
applications.
Separate Oil Cooler System Parts
ZAP-11780 Oil Thermostat. Opens at 175º F. Bypasses Oil Cooler
Below 175º for Quick Warm-Up. Includes Fittings and Clamps. $79.35
NOTE: This thermostat must be installed between the oil filter and
cooler for proper operation. Strongly recommended for proper engine
warm-up in cool weather operation.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Cooler hoses/systems must be installed in this
order. Engine to oil filter to thermostat (if used) to cooler and
then back to the engine. Hot oil must be filtered first before it is
cooled for best flow.
Order Toll Free (800)792-2697 | Information (530)244-1616 | 24 Hour
Fax (530)244-0933
This is the product you are getting:
model is 9217 for vanagon dimensions are 11 X 8 X 1.5