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Date:         Sun, 24 May 2009 16:43:13 -0500
Reply-To:     Alan Felder <dieseldoofus@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Alan Felder <dieseldoofus@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Front Suspension - Screws
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
In-Reply-To:  <015601c9dcb7$49d5e410$6501a8c0@PROSPERITY>
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Thanks Scott and Mark, that is exactly what I needed to know. Yes, they are stuck. I'll probably try to get the two broken ones out but I'm gonna leave the other two. I don't really need to get them off just replacing ball joints, and wanted to replace small stuff I saw. Now, any advice before I take the spindles to a machine shop for pressing? upper BJ's are off, lowers I cant get a loaner press from Autozone to fit.

Alan

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans < scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

> Those things sure get rusted together all right. > I ran into the exact same thing on a vanagon from the east coast. > Interestingly it was rusted more on the left side than the right side. More > salt in the middle of the road I imagine. > > it didn't matter what I did to the really rusted left side - those three > bolts with nuts on the bottom were totally seized in place. > No amount of oxygen-acetylene torch heating helped........I put on gallons > of really good penetrating oil.... > there was no way all three of those bolts would come out of there. > Even with a nut off........hammering with a punch wouldn't drive out the > bolt, just super stuck. > I finally had to use another good used left lower arm I had on another > early vanagon. > > I was able to get the other side apart.......and still it was hard to get > apart. Things are under load or a bind some .......If the spring is not > installed there might be less tension and binding on the lower suspension > parts.........but, .bottom line, it's not something that unbolts cleanly and > simply .... even if things are not badly rusted. > > the 3 bolts are not threaded into any parts........they are simple > through-bolts with nuts on the bottom, they just get desperately stuck. > Scott > www.turbovans.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Felder" <dieseldoofus@GMAIL.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 1:04 PM > Subject: Front Suspension - Screws > > > > I am working on the front suspension of my 82 Diesel Westy, and have a >> question about some of the parts which I may not want to disassemble (to >> find out about). >> >> At the lower arm 251 407 153 B, there are three M10x80 Hex Head Screws N >> 010 >> 480 2 on each side, which hold together the lower arm, the ball joint >> retainer 251 407 177 and the radius rod 251 407 059. It is obvious that >> the >> lower arm is not threaded for these bolts but are the other parts? Or, >> once >> the self-locking nuts are off and lots of penetrating oil later, will they >> slide (or punch) out the top or do they have to be un-screwed? >> >> So far, I have broken off the head off of one on the right side and the >> threaded extension with the nut on the other. >> >> -- >> Not all those who wander are lost >> > >

-- Not all those who wander are lost


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