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Date:         Fri, 5 Jun 2009 19:26:53 EDT
Reply-To:     Dvdclarksn@AOL.COM
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From:         David Clarkson <Dvdclarksn@AOL.COM>
Subject:      rich running condition-still searching for problem
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____________________________________ From: Dvdclarksn To: mdrillock@cox.net Sent: 6/5/2009 7:22:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: rich running condition-still searching for problem

I'm in Roanoke, VA. I work as a service advisor at the local Honda dealership and have access to a variety of tools. I have been thinking of

purchasing a digitool if I end up keeping this engine. Tonight I checked the connection at the AFM and also the boot. All that was ok. I applied some

di-electric grease to this connection, the O2 wire connection to the computer, and several ground connections. I also checked for any trace of voltage at the

ground connections in the engine compartment and found nothing there either. I'm thinking that I may replace the O2 sensor since it has 52,000 mi. on it and VW says replace it every 30k right? I'm starting to run out of ideas. Could the AFM tracks be dirty? the connection looked perfect. Am I

missing any ground connection points that might need cleaning/replacing? Thanks for your help.

David

In a message dated 6/5/2009 6:58:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mdrillock@cox.net writes:

It sounds like DigiTool time. The DigiTool allows you to look at the readings of the sensors in real time, as the ECU thinks they are reading. Testing the sensors themselves doesn't tell you what the ECU sees. Where are you located?

Mark

David Clarkson wrote: > I am still trying to track down the rich running condition on my 90 > Westfalia. I thought that the problem may have been related to the ground path > and have cleaned up the two ground points under the coil and have moved > another ground connection from the coolant tower previously to a better contact > point. I also replaced a connection for the green wire that attaches to the > positive side of the coil. No change. I also put together the test wiring > harness discussed in a previous thread from the article on the Samba. No > changes with the problem with the harness in place. I also tried shutting off > and then restarting the engine with the engine running to test the o2 > sensor per Dennis' suggestion. This did correct the problem for a few

seconds. I > then disconnected the o2 sensor and still had the problem so I think

this > rules out the sensor. I had previously found the correct voltage coming off > of the sensor (.1-.7 volts). The temp II sensor has been replaced and I > have checked the wires to the sensor. I am going to check the throttle

switch > to see if any problems are evident here tomorrow. I also am going to use > probe pins to try and check for voltages at the computer from the temp

I, > temp II and AFM. Any other suggestions from the list to check on this > problem? The problem was an intermittent rich running problem and now

seems to be > almost constant. Thanks gurus. > > David Clarkson > 90 Westy >

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