Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:05:33 -0400
Reply-To: pdooley <psdooley@VERIZON.NET>
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From: pdooley <psdooley@VERIZON.NET>
Subject: was: RE: 6 guys and vanagon x-country-UPDATE now:the great
Megasquirt debate
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Jake, this was a reply to Scott’s inquiry.
What, you think I’m beating my drum for the kids to order a megasquirt and
do an install on the roadside?
I said they could be running a MS for the price of the ECU they bought.
Yes, the wiring and sensors are extra, but ECU for ECU is the same.
And the install/sorting part is where you learn, worth the time spent.
But obviously not a good option if you’re broken down somewhere far from
home.
In their situation they didn’t do too bad.
_____
From: Jake de Villiers [mailto:crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:34 PM
To: pdooley
Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
Subject: Re: 6 guys and vanagon x-country-UPDATE
Right - $650.00 NOT INSTALLED AND SORTED!!
The kids paid ONLY $330.00 to get back on the road in less than 24 hours -
that's a f*cking bargain in 2009.
Wake up fellas
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:34 PM, pdooley <psdooley@verizon.net> wrote:
Any megasquirt can run a WBX, that's the beauty of it.
The system is completely adjustable, which causes heartache for those who
want a quick, easy solution. Those are the guys that have it running, but
not perfect.
A bare bones, solder-yourself kit is $139, but much better idea to get the
pre-built V3.57 for $335, unless you have much time and patience and good
eyesight. Wiring harness is $65, sensors will run you $50 and a wideband O2
is $200, so you got around $650 in it, not cheap but better than other
standalone options.
Then just invest about 20 or 30 hours(for me anyway, I'm a little slow) into
learning the wiring, tuning, and datalogging.
To run megasquirt on a WBX, you simple specify certain parameters like
number of cylinders and displacement to get a required fuel value, then set
up a fuel table based on RPM and MAP.
Really, you could run megasquirt on a lawnmower if you had a good rpm and
map signal.
You can also configure MS to control ignition with the stock VW distributor
hall sender.
Like Sudhir said, there is tons of info out there.
Almost everything has been done, some with good results, some not so good.
And true, it's not for everyone.
Pardon the cliché but it fits- you get out what you put in.
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:58 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: 6 guys and vanagon x-country-UPDATE
hows 'bout posting a link to a waterboxer with a MS system on it,
or of an MS system that can run a wbxr.
I suspect that 330 price is actually the bare bones price.....
and that with shipping, or 'other things you'd want with it' ........it
might be a little more than that.
but I'm always interested in EFI systems and 'real good reliability and
longevity' .........and simplicity.
what I often hear is that someone has a megasquirt system on something
.......say a vw-porsche 914 .......
or a dune buggy, and 'it works' but they don't have the kinks sorted out
yet. Read that a few times..
thanks , if you have anything picture-wise.
scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "pdooley" <psdooley@VERIZON.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: 6 guys and vanagon x-country-UPDATE
> They could be running MS for $330.
> But all things considered they didn't get screwed too bad.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Tony Collins
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:46 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: 6 guys and vanagon x-country-UPDATE
>
> Maybe they are not taking ECU.....maybe they are running mega
> squirt.......Ok ok ........it is friday right?
> :)
> tony
> --
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> 85 Vanagon "Blubrik, El Guapo"
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Jake
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