Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:00:18 -0700
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From: Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: which pliers for GoWesty Fuel line clamps?
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For all of the same reasons the Scott (and others) have outlined is why I
use these clamps on both my 84 Vanagons and my 72 411 Station Wagon and not
the "crimp" style clamp.
http://www.airheadparts.com/viewDetail.asp?strMasterCat=&idproduct=8209
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Jim Thompson
84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"
84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
oldvolkshome@gmail.com
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On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> I call those a 'crimp style' hose clamps.
> I would not be using them on fuel lines for sure.
> ( a very good application for that type of clamp is CV joint
> boots...........I see them used there all the time......just perfect for
> that. )
>
> what I don't like about them is that it's not easy to 'tighten them a
> little
> more' after a while.
> You can.......with the proper tool.......tighten them a little more, but
> there's not much feel to it, like there is with a screw clamp, so a little
> hard to tell how much tighter you're making it.
>
> 'the' right hose clamps to use, in my opinion, are german stainless screw
> clamps, with a nice curled up edge where it tightens on the hose, so the
> clamp doesn't dig into the rubber. Plus, it's real easy to give 'em a
> little
> tweak tighter, or to check their tightness.
>
> 'too many' factory german things are designed to 'work right when perfect'
> ............
> this crimp style hose clamp is an example..............designed for fast
> and
> inexpensive factory installation ..........
> and sure, they're fine for years.......but you can't check them very well,
> and they do not sqeeze tightly enough after several years. I regard them as
> a hazzard even . They're not made for 'working on the van' ......they're a
> one-time, inexpesnive, 'theoretically always OK' thing ......
> GOOD stainless screw clamps, and not el-cheapo american # 4 screw
> clamps.............those are cheap junk too,
> but good german screw hose clamps of the right diameter ......those are
> 'the
> way.'
>
> the correct tool on the crimp clamps.........the one I have is specifically
> for those, sort of a limited travel pliers like crimping thing. Just use
> good german screw clamps. What I am always looking for is
> ............strong reliability, longevity , and easy to work on, and easy
> to
> repair in the field if neccessary. Good german screw clamps provide all
> that. Crimp ones do not.
> scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
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