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Date:         Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:00:18 -0700
Reply-To:     Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: which pliers for GoWesty Fuel line clamps?
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
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For all of the same reasons the Scott (and others) have outlined is why I use these clamps on both my 84 Vanagons and my 72 411 Station Wagon and not the "crimp" style clamp.

http://www.airheadparts.com/viewDetail.asp?strMasterCat=&idproduct=8209 -- Jim Thompson 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria" 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt" 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug" oldvolkshome@gmail.com http://www.oldvolkshome.com *********************************** On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans < scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

> I call those a 'crimp style' hose clamps. > I would not be using them on fuel lines for sure. > ( a very good application for that type of clamp is CV joint > boots...........I see them used there all the time......just perfect for > that. ) > > what I don't like about them is that it's not easy to 'tighten them a > little > more' after a while. > You can.......with the proper tool.......tighten them a little more, but > there's not much feel to it, like there is with a screw clamp, so a little > hard to tell how much tighter you're making it. > > 'the' right hose clamps to use, in my opinion, are german stainless screw > clamps, with a nice curled up edge where it tightens on the hose, so the > clamp doesn't dig into the rubber. Plus, it's real easy to give 'em a > little > tweak tighter, or to check their tightness. > > 'too many' factory german things are designed to 'work right when perfect' > ............ > this crimp style hose clamp is an example..............designed for fast > and > inexpensive factory installation .......... > and sure, they're fine for years.......but you can't check them very well, > and they do not sqeeze tightly enough after several years. I regard them as > a hazzard even . They're not made for 'working on the van' ......they're a > one-time, inexpesnive, 'theoretically always OK' thing ...... > GOOD stainless screw clamps, and not el-cheapo american # 4 screw > clamps.............those are cheap junk too, > but good german screw hose clamps of the right diameter ......those are > 'the > way.' > > the correct tool on the crimp clamps.........the one I have is specifically > for those, sort of a limited travel pliers like crimping thing. Just use > good german screw clamps. What I am always looking for is > ............strong reliability, longevity , and easy to work on, and easy > to > repair in the field if neccessary. Good german screw clamps provide all > that. Crimp ones do not. > scott > www.turbovans.com >


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