Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:10:38 -0700
Reply-To: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: oil consumption
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"seals!" Yah, I meant "Seals" not the whole guide...though on the VW Inline
the guides are pretty small, like a straw or something.
It did take me only 3 hrs to remove and replace the head on my motor. I
surfaced it, too..using some abrasive and a plate of glass...Obviously just
to clean the mating surface. I still have the seals, unused, for when my
motor starts smoking sometime...
Don Hanson
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> I suspect you mean valve guide SEALS,
> not valve guides.
> As I posted a couple of weeks ago ...
> when inline 8 valve 1.8's where 'new' in Rabbits .....
> they were known for using oil past the valve guide seals.
> That motivated VW to put a sticker on the gas cap door saying to check the
> oil lever every time you gas up, as it was a chronic problem at the time.
>
> Vavle seals can be replaced with the head on the engine, engine in the van.
> You position a cylinder to TDC on compressione.........then pressurize that
> cylinder with compressed air through the spark plug hole...
> That way you can compress the vavle srping, remove the keepers, then
> spring, then get at the valve guide seals.
> the intake ones are the main ones to be concered about I beleive.
>
> 3 times the post says 'guides' ..........of course the head has to be off
> to replace 'valve guides.' ...a bronze like metal part the valve slides in.
> And the valve guide Seals sit on top of the valve guide.
> but I know what you meant Don !
>
> shame about that guy's motor home sinking into the sand and ocean. Bet he
> never does that again !
> He shoulda had a vanagon ..........mighta been able to pull one of those
> out !
> and if syncro ...........hey .........it sure SHOULD have been able to
> self-rescue.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Hanson" <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 3:50 PM
> Subject: Re: oil consumption
>
>
>
> If you do find you need valve guides, they come in a top end gasket kit, I
>> think. When I first got my 1.8 inline powered van I screwed up with a
>> coolant swap and didn't get it bled properly. Being new to Vanagons, and
>> not too savvy about the heaters and cooling systems, I kept driving mine,
>> even though it had the classic symptoms of cooling air lock..And I blew
>> the
>> head gasket.
>> Cut to the chase, at the same time I did the head gasket repair, I stuck
>> in an AutoTech camshaft and some other things. I bought a top end gasket
>> set and guides came with that, though I didn't do the guides in my motor
>> that time.
>> I did the whole repair in under half day with the engine in the van. I
>> am
>> not a mechanic, but I have done some motors.
>>
>> You should be able to do the guides pretty easy..these are very easy to
>> work on and cheap parts..
>> Don Hanson
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Bill MacLachlan <billmacla@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> thanks all for the comments....it's just good to have reassurance on these
>>> things.. good to know I'm not out to lunch.
>>>
>>> Car was in the shop today & they did a leak down test. 10% was the number
>>> with the conclusion that the rings and valves are sealing well. That
>>> leaves
>>> valve guides. They've added product to the oil (?) to see if that helps
>>> the
>>> seals on the valve guides. I'm to run it for a couple of tanks of gas see
>>> if
>>> the oil consumption drops to four stroke rather than two stroke
>>> levels.......I'll post again in when there's some more info......
>>>
>>> thanks again all !!!!!!!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Jake de Villiers <
>>> crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > That's way high Bill, especially for a modern motor.
>>> >
>>> > My 225,000 mile '84 1.9 goes through a quart every 1000 miles and my
>>> > somewhat younger '87 2.1 goes through 1/2 a quart between oil changes.
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Bill MacLachlan <billmacla@gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi all.... I need a little list help.
>>> >>
>>> >> What's an acceptable oil consumption for an 1800 inline4 motor?
>>> >>
>>> >> Why do I ask?
>>> >> I had a shop supply and install a used 1800 I4 motor in my '82 van to
>>> >> replace a dead I4. I've put 2500+/- miles on it in the past year.It's
>>> >> using
>>> >> oil - a half litre in under 200 miles.
>>> >> Feels way high for me.
>>> >> I've been told 1 litre/1000k ( 600 miles) is acceptable.
>>> >>
>>> >> comments?
>>> >>
>>> >> thanks all
>>> >>
>>> >> Bill M
>>> >> 82 Gl I4
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Jake
>>> >
>>> > 1984 Vanagon GL
>>> > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
>>> >
>>> > Crescent Beach, BC
>>> >
>>> > www.thebassspa.com
>>> > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
>>> > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>
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