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Date:         Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:29:01 -0400
Reply-To:     W Monk <billmonk@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         W Monk <billmonk@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Emissions failure Nox (the epilogue)
Comments: To: Jeff <vw.doka@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <4a415bf6.02578c0a.5c5d.09ae@mx.google.com>
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Yeah he did take you. The cat you needed was only 100.00. I think he was playing off CA new rules where it must have the "special labeling" ect... on it. Supposed to be visible from a certain distance blah blah blah...I just hope CT doesn't adopt CA rules!!!

Bill 87 Westy with a new $99.00 Cat just installed

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Jeff <vw.doka@gmail.com> wrote:

> David, > > You definitely got screwed on that catalytic converter. Only the > air-cooled > Vanagons had different cats for the CA models. What a bunch of crap he was > spouting... > > He made an extra $300+ off of you by welding a generic cat onto the old > flanges. > > Oh well, at least you're legal again. > > Cheers, > > Jeff > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > David M > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:42 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Emissions failure Nox (the epilogue) > > My 1987 2.1L Vanagon finally passed the emissions.... The total bill $985. > Pretty expensive if you ask me to reduce the Nox from 5.5 grams per mile to > just under 2 grams per mile. I did get the oil changed, a tune-up and > injector seals replaced. He also replaced the radiator fan switch with a > 'special one for Arizona'. Now here is where I need the lists help. The > shop > owner spun me a tale about needing a 'special' California catalytic > converter because a non-CA one would need the exhaust to be repiped. I did > not know at the time but it turns out this was total b*llsh*t. He told me a > new one would be $795 but he knew of a mechanic 'buddy' who had one he > could > fit for $500. The catalytic converter by the way was $500 of the bill (a > sublet repair - no idea who did it). I looked at the cat and it has no o2 > port on it. It's just a cylindrical unit with thick seams on each side. > Also, it appears that whoever did the job cut off the old cat at the pipes > leaving > the flanges behind and welded in the new cat. The new cat has no sticker > on > it (federally mandated?), I also did not get any warrantly card with my > bill. Does anyone know if this is legal? > Another strange thing, the shop owner drove the van and got it through the > emissions himself - which means I have no idea what he wrote on the back of > the failure certificate (the repairs made to pass). I did not ask him to do > this and was very surprised when I found out. > The repair shop was German Auto-Tec of Main Street, Mesa. It got great > reviews on the website I checked. But somehow I feel I was fleeced on this > one. > > -David (Tempe AZ) >


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