Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:21:01 -0700
Reply-To: craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
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From: craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: How goods the firstaid kit in your Westfalia?
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Wasn't there a lawsuit that involved Dr. Heimlich asking to have his name
removed from the procedure, since the Red Cross began treating it
differently?I think we're not "supposed" to call it the Heimlich
anymore......
It's kind of like the "life Jackets" thing....
As an instructor, we were never allowed to use the term "Life Jackets" only
"Personal Floatation Device" untill recently.....
Once again, they are Life Jackets!!!! (I get very excited about this).
-Craig
'85GL turned WESTY
BOSTIG in the back
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Chuck Mathis <cvmathis@comcast.net> wrote:
> David,
>
> I have a mouth barrier widget that was issued in a first aid training
> class
> I went through a few years ago. I keep it in my backpack computer bag
> that is almost always with me or in my camera bag when the backpack is
> not.
> It was explained as a way to prevent direct transmission of germs and
> bodily fluids.
>
> In 20 years in the Coast Guard I was only 'involved' in one CPR
> incident -
> I was the in port OOD aboard the CHEROKEE in Little Creek, Virginia
> when a small boat pulled
> up with an older gentleman having problems breathing. We directed
> them to the amphib ramps at the head of the pier and my JOOD and an
> EMT trained deckie jumped in the boat to help. The JOOD started doing
> mouth to mouth on the guy who, after three or four breaths, barfed big
> time.
> At that moment I am certain Steve would have paid serious money to
> have had a barrier.
>
> The gentleman was fine, Steve never came down with anything and the
> incident
> became a shipboard legend retold over countless beers from Halifax,
> Nova Scotia to
> Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. I still get a chuckle when I think about the
> look on Steve's face.
>
>
> Chuck
> '85 Wolfsburg Westy - 'Roland the Road Buffalo'
>
> On Jul 3, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Automatic digest processor wrote:
>
> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:40:36 -0400
>> From: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
>> Subject: Re: How goods the firstaid kit in your Westfalia?
>>
>> At 01:14 AM 7/3/2009, craig cowan wrote:
>>
>>> Things would have been all that much less worrisome if I had a good
>>> firstaid
>>> kit in my Vanagon. Be sure to get a mouth barrier device, should
>>> you ever
>>> need to do CPR (and they are currently teaching just chest
>>> compressions
>>> though....).
>>>
>>
>> I was involved in four CPR incidents back in the '70s (one
>> successful, IIRC) and while an Ambu bag (hand-operated ventilator)
>> was a nice thing to have, there was never any hesitation about doing
>> direct mouth-to-mouth until one arrived. Is this barrier a response
>> to real risks, or is it an aesthetic matter to increase people's
>> willingness to do CPR? If the risks are real, do you have any
>> figures on just how risky it is? Likewise on the compressions-only
>> -- is that based on outcomes or aesthetics?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> --
>> David Beierl - Providence RI USA --
>> http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/
>> '89 Po' White Star "Scamp"
>>
>
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