Date:         Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:31:29 -0700
Reply-To:     Roland <syncronicity1@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Roland <syncronicity1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Yeah! It's a water pump weekend! (questions of course)
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Hi Scott,

Thanks a bunch for the answers.  A couple of follow ups:

- I saw the 13mm socket/swivel integrated as one when I got to sears, looked
like a good option. I got the general 3/8" drive universal, can use it for
others, did a test fit last night, should work.

- re:  pulley bolt removal:  your suggestion is excellent.  I wanted to say
"so obvious", but I didn't see it at the time.  Sounds like the perfect
method.

- re:  hose/pipe to the right side:  I only loosened one of the clamps,
guess you are right, I'll loosen them both, try some lube, etc.

So, I have additional questions (although I am going outside to work on it
now):
- I read somewhere, perhaps just in some email about using some sealer on
the o rings, maybe it was some silicone sealer in addition to the o-rings to
provide extra protection.  Anybody remember that at all, or am I maybe
thinking of something else.

- belt tightness:  anybody have suggestion to measure the tightness of the 3
belts?  I don't have any type of gauge, is there some "rule of thumb
method"?

Thanks!

Roland

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

> re
> a 3/8" drive universal / swivel
>
> that'll likely get the job done, but the real nice tool to have is a short
> 13mm universal drive socket ....
> the swivel and socket in one piece. I got one from Snap-On Tools years ago
> ............very spending but worth it in the long one, plus it's guaranteed
> forever.
>
> re
> Removing the pulley from the water pump.  Didn't have really big
>
>> adjustable plier/grip, and tried with the belt on, and some other stuff -
>> nada.  I ended up using some really narrow vice grip pliers and wedged
>> them
>> in between the pulley mount and the water pump body and that stopped it
>> from
>> turning so I could get the pulley bolts out.
>>
>
> To hold the water pump pulley from turning .......all you do is put a
> socket ( on a ratchet ) on one bolt...............
> then put a large screw driver against the side of the socket , with the tip
> on one of the other bolt heads. This holds it perfectly from turning while
> you loosen the first nut ............I hope I don't need to say, loosen all
> 3 first..........don't remove any until  all 3 are loosened.
> A square shaft large screwdriver is perfect for this.  A round shaft one
> will work, but a square shaft large screw driver is what you really want.
> Cheap ones are like   $ 3.50 at China Freight and Salvage.
>
> re,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
> the hose / pipe going to the right head, I got it loosened, I just can't
>
>> turn it out of the way.  Ben's place says to swivel it out of the way,
>> can't
>> accomplish that yet, since it is so cramped under the damper pully I just
>> can't figure a way to twist (turn) it yet since it is stuck to the little
>> coupler hose on the other end.
>>
>
> Did you loosen the hose clamps in the short hose ? ? .........it's
> neccessary to do this step.  On some there is a bump on the right side metal
> pipe.....to keep the hose from sliding up the pipe.  Ddon't run afoul of
> that pump. It's hard to see as well. Not a problem though, unless you are
> trying to slide the hose up the pipe to the right. Lube the heck out of all
> rubber and everything with WD-40.  On metal, I use penetrating oil, so no
> penetrating oil on rubber..........wd-40 on rubber.
> Makes it way easier to work on.
>
>
> scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland" <syncronicity1@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 4:12 PM
> Subject: Yeah! It's a water pump weekend! (questions of course)
>
>
>
>  Hello folks,
>>
>> The subject line sounds too much like Chevy Chase's summer vacation, but
>> I've been procrastinating too long.  It is going well, thanks to:
>> http://www.benplace.com/water_pump.htm, and
>> http://volksweb.relitech.com/19wpump.htm, some archive stuff and a couple
>> of
>> thesamba threads.
>>
>> Got it all undone, except the 2 bottom nuts on the water pump itself.  Got
>> the top nut off with my usual 13mm socket, but it won't fit on the lower
>> left nut because there isn't enough clearance next to the WP housing.  And
>> I
>> can't get it on the bottom right nut, using various extensions, because
>> the
>> damper pulley is in the way.  So I am heading to sears, and then harbor
>> freight if needed, to buy:
>> - a thin walled 13 mm socket
>> - a 3/8" drive universal / swivel (to get the lower right nut).
>> Does this sound to anyone like it might do the job to get those last 2
>> off?
>>
>> Lessons learned along the way:
>> - Removing the pulley from the water pump.  Didn't have really big
>> adjustable plier/grip, and tried with the belt on, and some other stuff -
>> nada.  I ended up using some really narrow vice grip pliers and wedged
>> them
>> in between the pulley mount and the water pump body and that stopped it
>> from
>> turning so I could get the pulley bolts out.
>> - didn't see it in the various instructions, but the little hose that
>> comes
>> out the top of the water pump and goes to the oil cooler.  I had to remove
>> it from the oil cooler else impossible to access the lower left water pump
>> mounting bolt.
>> - the wire to the oil pressure sensor (I think that's what it is) was
>> laying
>> directly on the bottom right WP mounting bolt, preventing any socket from
>> getting on the nut, had to remove that wire.
>> - the hose / pipe going to the right head, I got it loosened, I just can't
>> turn it out of the way.  Ben's place says to swivel it out of the way,
>> can't
>> accomplish that yet, since it is so cramped under the damper pully I just
>> can't figure a way to twist (turn) it yet since it is stuck to the little
>> coupler hose on the other end.
>>
>> So far, so good, pleased so far, just gotta get those 2 nuts off of the
>> water pump itself and it should come free.
>>
>> Please any and all comments / suggestions welcome!
>>
>> Roland
>>
>
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