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Date:         Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:16:15 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Vent windows past 90 degrees -- nope
Comments: To: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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this is about the small front triangular windows in the front door of vanagons ? On all my vanagons ..... some 14 or so now.....( just got another beauty today, I'll tell about it below ) ......all my vent windows open more than 90 degrees...... like to get full ram/scoop affect on a hot day ......... I haven't tried all 28 of my vent windows......but I'm sure I've opened a dozen of them way way more than 90 degrees.

Unoffical early 'for sale' ad :

1984 'L' model vanagon, two tone paint, white on top, kinda of a nice cheery red on the bottom half. Most unusually it has a front bench seat, and it's no walk-through area. So it seats 3 in front. one single black driver's seat...... and one double wide two-passnger bench seat . The uphostery on the seats is interesting too ..... it's a checkerboard pattern 'heavy corse cloth' ...........like those stiped diesel westy seats are, but in a differnt pattern. Looks knnd cool

my vision for this van ..........considering that so many are getting badly rusted around the country is ...... a modest but decent and unusaly 84 vanagon ...... that somecan swap over their good engine and trannie to....from their rusted or crashed vanagon. This van is located in Souther Oregon, in abaout the dryiest part of Oregon ........ It's drier in the Rogue Valley of Oregon, than it is in Tucson AZ .......almost . So all my vans get no rust while in my care. anyway..........just a thought. a chance for someone to pick up a great rust free, uncrashed 84 passneger vanagon with an unusual seat arragnment, and put their good stuff in it. there are some dents. But she's very, very savable and restorble, and no body cancer at all. Reasonably priced to, btw.

Scott www.turbovans.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Beierl" <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:38 PM Subject: Vent windows past 90 degrees -- nope

> I'm sorry to say that I just spent an unimproving hour and a half > establishing that it is in practical terms impossible to remove the > bump on the lower pivot that prevents it opening more than 90 > degrees. Unless you're willing to make a hole in the outer door > skin. I seriously believe that they must have installed the > quarter-windows before the outer skin went on the door. With a > phillips-head screw. Facing out. With a piece of sheet metal 3/16" > outside it, which I think is the upper fold of the door skin. And a > similar piece about the same distance inside, too. > > The pivot is clamped by a strip of thick sheet metal with a slot in > the middle that is half the pivot circumference in length or > less. This is folded from back to front around the pivot and clamped > together with a screw that also attaches the assembly to a tab on the > door. The pivot has a bump on the shaft that runs in the > slot. There's not enough access to get even a flex-shaft Dremel up > there to grind down the bump, and it prevents the pivot being removed > as well as being turned. All right, I lied. I *did* get a > flex-shaft Dremel up there, by making a slit in the lower moisture > barrier and passing the shaft up from there. And if I'd been willing > to spend half an hour trying to make that nib dissapear maybe I could > have. Five minutes sure didn't do it. Ok, when I get my gumption > back I'll go in there and walk a worn-out cutoff wheel up and down it > (there's only about half an inch width of access there between the > two strips of sheet metal). Maybe. I really really really want to > open that window so it hurls air at me, 'cause I haven't got air > conditioning. > > It's easy enough to adjust the tension, because you can grasp the > sides of the screw head with nice sharp needlenose pliers and turn it > a sixteenth turn at a time or so. > > I think this came from the same keep-em-guessing department that did > some of the cooling hoses...for total frustration with ten cents > worth of hardware, this has the hoses beat all hollow. > > [/rant] > > -- > David Beierl - Providence RI USA -- http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ > '89 Po' White Star "Scamp"


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