Date:         Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:26:55 -0400
Reply-To:     Robert Stewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
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From:         Robert Stewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Need some assistance to see if my mechanic is overcharging
              me...
Comments: To: John Bange <jbange@GMAIL.COM>
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Well it's too late the scoop is on plus I have empi external oil
cooler from Small Car as well. Plus I do have the lower temp
thermostat from Van-Cafe to utilize the radiator as well. I tried to
approach the problem from multiple perspectives. Lots of people say
the heat is what kills the auto tranny and heat is what kills the
engine so I also added the external Bus Boys Empi Oil cooler which
keeps the stock cooler in place and only opens the flow to the
external cooler once it reached 180 degrees I believe.

But I understand your point.

Thanks,
Rob
NY

On Jul 19, 2009, at 7:01 PM, John Bange wrote:

> The price is outstanding. The only thing I would advise against is the
> following:
>
>> Installation of 3rd Party Transmission Wing Cooling System (welded)
>> (this is the little metal wing sold by Terry Kay.
>
> This part is completely and utterly unnecessary, particularly if
> you're already putting in a separate air/fluid cooler. Even if you
> weren't and you were relying on the stock fluid/fluid heat exchanger,
> it would be a bad approach to the problem. With the stock system,
> transmission temperature is held at the same temperature as the
> coolant, whose temperature is regulated by the thermostat. As Terry
> says on his web site,"the trans temps dropped 30 degree's--enough to
> drop the needle on my temp gauge to the bottom of the LED red coolant
> level indicator". This shows a complete failure to understand the
> system. If you want the coolant (and the transmission by extension) to
> run cooler, you put in a lower temperature thermostat. You let the
> radiator do the work, as it is already in the airflow by necessity and
> has more than ample cooling capacity. You don't glue on a
> drag-inducing scoop to the bottom of your vehicle--- that's just
> stupid. Save yourself a few cents in improved gas mileage. Skip the
> scoop.
>
> --
> John Bange
> '90 Vanagon - "Lastwagen"
> '90 Vanagon GL - "Wiesel"