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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:21:26 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sliding Door Handle
Comments: To: Geo & Kathleen Hahn <ahwahnee@CYBERTRAILS.COM>
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hi, I have two comments -

I have had those latch assemblies out of 84 and earlier vans and in my hands several times . Usually to address that the sliding 'lock button' as lost a spring or something, and it wants to fall into the locked position any time you close the door. And .....I agree with your assessment about how diabolical it appears to be. I'd start with a known-bad one, take that apart to discover it's secrets, then try to fix your good one.

the other comment is : When opening the door, does the handle go nearly to the end of it's travel before the door releases ? like it's less than half an inch from the bottom of it's travel range before the door releases to open ? I find this quite commonly on 84's, and I remove the door panel, spray lube EVERYTHING over and over, as it's never been done since the van was built usually ......... and that can reduce the effort it takes to push the outside handle down a lot, AND there is a cable adjustment for when the outside handle makes the real latch release. Tighten that up, so it releases at a more normal spot, like half way down the handle's arc of travel. that might fix the 'floppy' when closed issue too.

I could use an early ( 80 to 84 ) outside door handle.......the longer ones, or even a shorter one for 85 and on up, if anyone has one. thanks, hope this helps some, Scott www.turbovans.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geo & Kathleen Hahn" <ahwahnee@CYBERTRAILS.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: Sliding Door Handle

The sliding door handle on by 84 Westy droops (about 30 degrees) when the door is open -- as I recall it used to snap smartly back up into the level postion after opening. It returns to level when the door is closed.

The screw on the backside of the handle shaft is tight. The handle itself is not bent or broken, it is a replacement that has been on there for about 12 years but has no other issues. The usual assortment of gaskets & escutcheon appear to be in place.

That said, I suspect the fault lies inside the latch mechanism itself which is secured to the leading edge of the door by a pair of allen-head bolts that are likely wicked tight.

Since the mechanism (what I can see of it) seems to be a combination of a Swiss watch and a Claymore mine I am reluctant to start taking it apart without a plan.

Am I likely to be able to fix this thing (perhaps a spring is broken or unhooked)?

Or... is disasembly hopeless and I am better off to replace the unit with a presumably good used part?

Or... should I just live with it?

My concern with doing nothing is that it is telling me that someday it will fail completely. Another concern is that if the handle is not held level whilst closing it gets abruptly jerked level as the door latches (that can't be too good long term).

Any advice welcome. As you may have noticed, I am working thru a punch list of issues, some arising on a recent trip, others just stuff I've been putting off. Thanks to those who have helped me so far.

Geo Hahn


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