Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:48:38 -0400
Reply-To: Robert Stewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
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From: Robert Stewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
Subject: Re: gov't sure fire way to destroy an engine Re: about oil
additives
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Having just read your post I think the gov is going to great lengths
to be 100% sure these engine never see usage ever again.
How much time and money does it cost them to have the engine destroyed
in this way?
How do you use an engine that has liquid metal in it for scrap metal
now it has this glass added to the internal parts of the engine?
Wouldn't that make it really hard to recycle?
Thanks Jim for the enlightening info.
I can only hope the our Vanagon brethren will pack the old vans away
and never scrap them to use to use as parts or maybe VW will just wake
up and build us the van we have been asking for for 10 years.
Have a great day everyone.
Robert
NY
On Jul 27, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Jim Akiba wrote:
> I wonder if any vanagons are going to be euthanized via this program.
> Here is the official government procedure for the dealers to ensure
> engines are destroyed when you go to trade in the vanagon for a kia
> ha. It's disturbing in many ways. I thought this was particularly
> relevant to vanagons owners because vanagon owners tend to use
> recycled parts, including engines for upkeep and conversions.
>
>
>
> Appendix B to Part 599 - Engine Disablement Procedures for the CARS
> Program
> Engine Disablement Procedures for the CARS Program
> THIS PROCEDURE IS NOT TO BE USED BY THE VEHICLE OWNER
> Perform the following procedure to disable the vehicle engine.
> Since the vehicle will not be drivable after this procedure is
> performed,
> consider where the procedure will be performed and how the vehicle
> will be moved after the procedure is complete.
> 1. Obtain solution of 40% sodium silicate/60% water. (The Sodium
> Silicate
> (SiO2/Na2O) used in the solution must have a weight ratio of 3.0 or
> greater.)
> 2. Drain engine oil for environmentally appropriate disposal.
> 3. Install the oil drain plug.
> 4. Pour enough solution in the engine through the oil fill for the
> oil pump to
> circulate the solution throughout the engine. Start by adding 2
> quarts of the
> solution, which should be sufficient in most cases.
> CAUTION: Wear goggles and gloves. Appropriate protective clothing
> should be worn to prevent silicate solution from coming into contact
> with the
> skin.
> 5. Replace the oil fill cap.
> 6. Start the engine.
> 7. Run engine at approximately 2000 rpm (for safety reasons do not
> operate at
> high rpm) until the engine stops. (Typically the engine will operate
> for 3 to 7
> minutes. As the solution starts to affect engine operation, the
> operator will
> have to apply more throttle to keep the engine at 2000 rpm.)
> 8. Allow the engine to cool for at least 1 hour.
> 9. With the battery at full charge or with auxiliary power to provide
> the power of
> a fully charged battery, attempt to start the engine.
> 10. If the engine will not operate at idle, the procedure is complete.
> 11. If the engine will operate at idle, repeat steps 6 through 10
> until the engine
> will no longer idle.
> 12. Attach a label to the engine that legibly states the following:
> This engine is from a vehicle that is part of the Car Allowance Rebate
> System (CARS). It has significant internal damage caused by operating
> the engine with a sodium silicate solution (liquid glass) instead of
> oil.
