Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:23:49 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: gov't sure fire way to destroy an engine Re: about oil
additives
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You're right John.........
'Driving' as we know it ..........
sad to say .......but the writing is on the wall that that era is slowly
fading away.
Enjoy them while we can I say .......
or stop our out of control government.
Some day, and not all that far in the future .......I'll suspect we'll be
saying things like :
"hey, wasn't that great back then............you could just drive the local
gas station, fill up for no worse than 35 bucks or so ......
and drive*anywhere* we wanted to, 24-7 ...........essentially, use our roads
and vehicles however we wished, as long as it was responsible and
considerate of others. Heck, we could drive across deserts so vast and empty
you could drive on the wrong side of the road, and it didn't matter.
Remember how we didn't even have to go to our computer to program where we
wanted our car to go ?? Wasn't that wonderful !!
Remember when we could buy $ 10,000 worth of gas or diesel fuel if we
wanted, and drive 25,000 miles in a year if we wanted ? Man, those were the
days.
Like...........wasn't it great when there wasn't a government supplied GPS
device in our car, tamper proof of course ..........so the government could
tax us on the miles we drive, not just the fuel we buy. Wasn't that all
great back then !!? "
an no kidding.........Oregon is contemplating the GPS device so they can tax
on miles driven.
And isn't that going to be funny for people driving 50 mpg cars ?
............sure they save on fuel, and fuel taxes......but since their high
mileage reduces government income, the gov has to find another way to get it
..........
so ..........even though you get 50 mpg, you PAY for miles covered anyway
...........and you are not really saving that much anyway.
In all cases, as the size of the beuaracrcy goes up, services and efficiency
goes down, up, and the cost of running it all increases. A never ending
cycle of diminished returns for energy invested. We pay more and more, and
we get less and less.
now they can't even keep libraries and parks open.
holly crap.
It's a durn shame Mabel, it's just a durn shame.
and kids, I really, really hope I am wrong, but things are changing so fast
on the autotive and driving landscape .......
that even in 5 years we might not recongize what today looks like to us,
f=driviung and car-wise.
oh well !
at least I got to enjoy drving when a good used car cost 400 bucks max, and
gas was 23 cents a gallon. And you could drive all over the colorado
mountains all night on a full moon night and spend about 4 dollars total, if
that, on gas. And we didn't have no goll-drun electronics running our cars
by golly !!
( no, I do appreciate electronics on cars for sure ...just had to say it for
affect ! )
I better be quiet and work some !
I have not yet taught all these vanagons how to fix themselves, after all.
scott
turbovans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rodgers" <inua@CHARTER.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: gov't sure fire way to destroy an engine Re: about oil
additives
>I work with Sodium Silicate all the time in my pottery operations. .
> When this stuff goes through an engine - it's death is permanent - never
> to be resurrected again.
>
> Next thing you know "They" will be dictating that no engine replacements
> or engine upgrade swaps of newer engines into older vehicles are to be
> permitted either.
>
> John Rodgers
> 88 GL Driver
>
> Jim Akiba wrote:
>> I wonder if any vanagons are going to be euthanized via this program.
>> Here is the official government procedure for the dealers to ensure
>> engines are destroyed when you go to trade in the vanagon for a kia
>> ha. It's disturbing in many ways. I thought this was particularly
>> relevant to vanagons owners because vanagon owners tend to use
>> recycled parts, including engines for upkeep and conversions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Appendix B to Part 599 - Engine Disablement Procedures for the CARS
>> Program
>> Engine Disablement Procedures for the CARS Program
>> THIS PROCEDURE IS NOT TO BE USED BY THE VEHICLE OWNER
>> Perform the following procedure to disable the vehicle engine.
>> Since the vehicle will not be drivable after this procedure is performed,
>> consider where the procedure will be performed and how the vehicle
>> will be moved after the procedure is complete.
>> 1. Obtain solution of 40% sodium silicate/60% water. (The Sodium Silicate
>> (SiO2/Na2O) used in the solution must have a weight ratio of 3.0 or
>> greater.)
>> 2. Drain engine oil for environmentally appropriate disposal.
>> 3. Install the oil drain plug.
>> 4. Pour enough solution in the engine through the oil fill for the oil
>> pump to
>> circulate the solution throughout the engine. Start by adding 2 quarts of
>> the
>> solution, which should be sufficient in most cases.
>> CAUTION: Wear goggles and gloves. Appropriate protective clothing
>> should be worn to prevent silicate solution from coming into contact with
>> the
>> skin.
>> 5. Replace the oil fill cap.
>> 6. Start the engine.
>> 7. Run engine at approximately 2000 rpm (for safety reasons do not
>> operate at
>> high rpm) until the engine stops. (Typically the engine will operate for
>> 3 to 7
>> minutes. As the solution starts to affect engine operation, the operator
>> will
>> have to apply more throttle to keep the engine at 2000 rpm.)
>> 8. Allow the engine to cool for at least 1 hour.
>> 9. With the battery at full charge or with auxiliary power to provide
>> the power of
>> a fully charged battery, attempt to start the engine.
>> 10. If the engine will not operate at idle, the procedure is complete.
>> 11. If the engine will operate at idle, repeat steps 6 through 10
>> until the engine
>> will no longer idle.
>> 12. Attach a label to the engine that legibly states the following:
>> This engine is from a vehicle that is part of the Car Allowance Rebate
>> System (CARS). It has significant internal damage caused by operating
>> the engine with a sodium silicate solution (liquid glass) instead of oil.
>>
>>
>>
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