Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:37:43 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Idiots for Clunkers..guy scraps 86 westy in new goverment
program
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so much stupidity. ( shoot, it's not Friday is it ? )
ok, real short then.
so they ruin the engines there at the dealer ....
then they tow the cars somewhere. = ?
Wouldn't it consume less fuel, and reduce emissions, to drive the cars to
the crusher, rather than tow them there ?
sure seems so to me. Tow trucks are not known for low emissions or high fuel
mileage.
This program increases the value of our older wonderful vans too.
heck, all you have to do is go out to your westy some afternoon, and use it
for a private hang-out space .......
which people can not do as well with their cars and SUV's , like you can
with a westy. They're priceless, and getting more so as we go here.
If there was a Westy-sensitive senator ...
they could exclude Westy's and Weekenders from being eligible for the
program,
for the sake of preserving a truly great thing.
Write your senator !
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Clarkson" <Dvdclarksn@AOL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:46 AM
Subject: Idiots for Clunkers..guy scraps 86 westy in new goverment program
>I work in the service dept. at a Honda dealership and am watching the
> "clunkers" come in and have their engines euthanized daily. Someone
> thought that
> it was humorous to suggest writing clunker on my 90 Westy's windshield.
> Talk about getting my dander up!!!! There is just something that is
> wasteful
> on so many levels about this program. I can't bear to watch the engines
> being destroyed no matter what make or model. To a gearhead like me it's
> about
> as pleasant as going to the SPCA to watch puppies being euthanized
> (because I love dogs more than I love most people-please don't
> misunderstand the
> analogy here). The point being that most who have never experienced the
> magic of our vehicles will never understand our passion for keeping them
> on the
> road. I tried to explain the "magic" of a Westy and that is was an
> investment as well as an intoxicating dream machine and reality escape
> pod. When I
> showed several co-workers the vehicles like mine for sale on the GoWesty
> site the collective sounds of jaws dropping was priceless. They still
> think
> that I'm nuts though.
>
> David Clarkson
> 90 Westy 266K
>
>
> In a message dated 8/2/2009 9:09:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
>
> I stored our 85gl for about a year indoors, pulled it out she ran like
> a top.
> Love it ! 3 states later we are staying in Oregon.. No cash for my
> clunker :)
>
> Joe
>
> Sent from iPhone.
>
> On Aug 2, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Al Knoll <anasasi@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>> I concur fully. Let's say your Westy Escape Pod has 150Kmiles serves
>> breakfast and dinner sleeps 4 in a pinch works as a ski cabin,
>> huntin lodge,
>> seaside resort, high country retreat, fishin' shack, astronomy base,
>> poppywatching basecamp,and stealth accommodations at MallWarts
>> around the
>> country, gets only 15mpg and knows the way home. To replace all that
>> capability would cost ?? 25K minimum at the local new car monger.
>> A NEW
>> sportsmobile, well don't even think about it. So if it is a
>> 'guzzler' get a
>> beater to drive for the most part and reserve your legendary Tardis
>> for
>> worthy ventures.
>>
>>
>> On 8/2/09, steve@eurocampers.com <steve@eurocampers.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There's no doubt a few Vanagons will meet their fate through this
>>> program.
>>>
>>> I would have traded in my '93 EV Weekender had I insured it for the
>>> past year. It has 200K on it and it's a little rusty in the wheel
>>> wells. It would be a good van for someone to fixup, but it's not
>>> worth $4,500. The same goes for many Vanagons.
>>>
>>> I could also scrap my '99 EV GLS. It has nearly 170K on it, but it's
>>> such a good reliable useful van, that I hate to see it go. I think
>>> the value is just a bit under $4,500, so it's not such a great deal.
>>>
>>> I have lots of family and friends that were hoping to turn something
>>> in under this program. None of them had vehicles that qualified.
>>> The program was smart in the way it takes the worst gas guzzlers off
>>> the road.
>>>
>>> It really comes down to value. If your Vanagon is worth close to
>>> $4,500 bucks or more, your a bit crazy to scrap it. Most of the
>>> Vanagons that will meet their demise under this program likely would
>>> have gone to the crusher sooner or later anyway.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>> SKL Enterprises Inc.
>>> http://EuroCampers.com <http://eurocampers.com/>
>>>
>>> 888-797-5994 - orders
>>> 636-337-7700 - customer service
>>>
>>> On Aug 2, 2009, at 10:24 AM, JordanVw@AOL.COM wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> thats actually a merion brown '86 westy wolfsburg weekender..
>>>> what a shame. i guess it has "CLUNKER" written across the
>>>> windshield now,
>>>> and must be scrapped.
>>>>
>>>> the sad thing is that vehicles elegible for this program must be 25
>>>> yrs old
>>>> or LESS...so this idiot just scraped by by ONE YEAR..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> im sure many more '86-'91 vanagons will meet this fate as well -
>>>> especially
>>>> in california.
>>>> at least vehicles that are older than 25 yrs are NOT elegible, so
>>>> they are
>>>> "protected" LOL
>>>>
>>>> chris
>>>>
>>>>
>
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