Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:37:05 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Idiots for Clunkers
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original
I too am like that Native American watching what 'has always been' pass away
before our eyes. Shed tears indeed.
hey .......it's STILL going on ....
the destruction of north American and a noble way of life by 'white guys'
and others.
re
But what about the junky Vanagons, sitting in a field of weeds, that
are continually advertised and rarely purchased? Are we to berate
those frustrated sellers who finally give in and send these vehicles
to the junkyard?"
Is there a crisis here ?
I think not, if they are just sitting around in a field of weeds. If not a
more desirable model, like a westy or syncro .....
sure, I suppose it's not that bad if people dispose of them, ordinary models
anyway.
There seem to be a huge amount of regular 84's that are very homeless. So
not to bothered if people crush those.
What does bother me though ...........is 'parting out.'
Sadly ...........a desirable model , say a syncro, westy, carat
etc........can be worth more in parts than what the whole van can bring ,
sometimes.
Now that gets me.
Unless it's badly rusted or crashed, it's a real shame to see any special
model 'go for parts'.
And I kinda don't care if the individual parts are worth more than the
whole vehicle.........
since 'keeping things noble' is far more important than getting money to
me......
when I see junkyards keeping a nice model around a short while until the big
pieces are sold off, then crush what remains ..
that's akin to rape to me - like 'mine' what you can off it quickly, dump
the rest.
that is 'white man exploitive attitude' ............what this country was
founded on, so I guess we can't be too surprised if people do that with
special models of vanagons still.
I don't perceive that junkyards are about preserving what remains for the
benefit of aficionado's ( mine is though .......not a junkyard really
though ) ....
they're just about 'getting money' .........no love for cars there, not that
I've seen, not usually anyway. .
and ....once in a while, on the other hand, a very nicely preserved example
shows up........and sometimes it's even at a really good price.. So once in
a while it goes the other way - great van, low price.
Non-rusted vanagons are pretty special, and it would be wise to not waste
those vanagons.
Seems that I'm running a 'home for homeless vanagons' lately .....up to 14
of them I think.
many are great, very rust free, not many dents ............perhaps they will
serve as great donor bodies to swap over good mechanicals to, for people
that have good, but too rusted vanagons. Just drive on out, pick your 'new'
vanagon body, and I'll guide you as you a swap over your good stuff top your
new vanagon body/chassis.
And ..........they sure are easy to spot in a parking lot full of 'roundy'
modern cars.
And you can sleep in them, and haul all kinds of junk etc ! They are
great - they are still YET on the rising part of the curve ! - the Greatness
of Vanagons.
Scott
www.turbobvans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "miguel pacheco" <mundopacheco@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Idiots for Clunkers
> Ok, I'm with you....son gets it, but not dad. I'm opposed to this
> program for many reasons. I am one of those who believes it makes more
> sense to drive/use what exists, rather than consume energy and
> resources to manufacture new. Furthermore, and more significantly,
> when I see any VW van go the boneyard, I am like the indian of tv
> commercial fame, overlooking the Hudson (is it the Hudson?).......zoom
> in and you see me shed a tear.
> But what about the junky Vanagons, sitting in a field of weeds, that
> are continually advertised and rarely purchased? Are we to berate
> those frustrated sellers who finally give in and send these vehicles
> to the junkyard?
> Miguel
| 
