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Date:         Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:04:36 -0800
Reply-To:     Mark Tuovinen <mst@AK.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Mark Tuovinen <mst@AK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Longer studs for S A alloys?
Comments: To: BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <ccafde090908040130j467b6c70kdcfc4dcaefb180a3@mail.gmail.com>
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Ben, thanks for the input.

I am using conical open end nuts and to my knowledge the drums are stock US market items. The offending bolts on the rear drums have been removed. I am just not used to seeing 3 - 4 threads of the lugnut exposed when most vehicles the stud protrudes past the nut. I have not counted the turns of the nuts yet but will today when I get the van back. Right now it is at a local shop having the clamshell modified so the 215/75R15 BFG A/T spare will fit. The rims are the older S A alloys that are similar to the 14" alloy that was offered.

Thanks,

Mark

----- Original Message ----- From: BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 12:34 am Subject: Re: Longer studs for S A alloys? To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Mark Tuovinen <mst@ak.net> wrote:

I am working on the installation of my 15" S A alloys on our `87 Westy Syncro. Using tapered cone open end lug nuts when I mount the wheels to the van the studs stop 3 to 4 threads short of the end of the lug nuts. Is this normal or did vans that came with steel wheels have shorter studs than those that came with alloy wheels? I have noticed a difference > between the amount of stud protruding from the lug nuts(using steel wheels) on our Westy Syncro(shorter) vs the Sunroof Syncro(longer), both are `87's. The Westy came to us with steel wheels while the other van had both alloys and steels with it and I suspect that the alloys are original to the van. The difference is not much but is noticeable.

Any knowledgeable input is greatly appreciated as we are taking off next weekend for 5 -7 days with the van and will be in places where services, if any, are severely limited. I am assuming that longer studs are in order and need to expedite a set plus installation if this is correct.

TIA

Mark in AK

Hello Mark. > As I mentioned via pmail yesterday, I would add some detail once I can get to a laptop. As Scott has already mentioned, VW did not change the length of the studs. The use of the 60 degree conical seat lugnuts, allowed the requisite 7.5 turns of engagement for safe attachment. When using SA alloys and many others, don't forget to remove the drum retaining bolts so the rear wheel can sit flush. If you are using stock Vanagon rear drums, you should be fine with the stock studs with just the addition of the conical lugnuts.If you use the SA drums with the thicker centers, then longer studs are in order.

> Since you have a Syncro, you should only need to use conical seat lugnuts up front as well. > > > -- > BenT >


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