Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:24:32 -0500
Reply-To:     Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
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From:         Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
Subject:      Re: Speaker/Amp Recommendation
Comments: To: Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM>
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I wouldn't put them there if they were the only speakers in your
system, I wouldn't put them there. I have my mid bass 8" Rockford
drivers in their own housings under there and I can't really hear
them despite having theri own 75 RMS watts/ch. amps.  when the van is
siting still I hear them.  Give up the map pocket and get out the
sabre saw and cut holes for some 6.5"'s with separate tweeters.  i
have Focal 165's and they're coming up on 10 years old now and still
going strong.  YOu should be able to get a used set off ebay for $150
or so and that's like less than half what they are new.  Buy from a
reputable seller and you should be protected.  Boston Acoustics are
really good too and so are MB Quart.  Compare the efficiency of the
speakers as for each 3 db of efficiency gained, it takes half the amp
wattage to get the same sound pressure level.  I'd really like to put
a pair of Kl;lipsch La Scalas in the back of the GL, as they do 104
db with 1 RMS watt per channel, but there'd be no room for anyone in
the back and the van would be 250# heavier and a definite theft
risk.    Most car speakers seem to do about 88-91 db with 1 RMS watt,
so do the math.

The amp is as critical as the transducers, so don't scrimp there
either.  Dynamat mat the doors when the money is available.  these
head units that advertise 52 wattsx4 are pulling your leg.  That
might be peak watts, but not REAL watts.  The difference between the
52 in the head unit and a 50 watt external power amp by a name brand
manufacturer is astounding.

Good luck

DM&FS

At 03:57 PM 8/13/2009, Michael Sullivan wrote:
>http://www.crutchfield.com/I-rXYEc000/EmailCart.asp?emType=0&emKey=463444
>Looking to add some range to drown out road noice and on a budget.  Opinions
>on this, please.  Will put the speakers under the rear seat and cut out.
>Michael in San Antonio
>91GL AT 'Gringo'
>73 Beetle