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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:47:26 EDT
Reply-To:     RAlanen@AOL.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Windshield Frame Rust
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In a message dated 13/08/2009 4:40:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:

Well, you can laugh all you want if it makes you feel good. HOWEVER, with the POR-15 there the metal WILL NOT RUST EVER again. Welding in new metal may work just as well IF and I say IF you coat the metal with POR-15. Otherwise the rust is coming back ! AND, welding has it's own set of problems, like warping the surrounding metal which you have to deal with. The POR-15 and Fiberglas is just as strong as welding in new metal and WILL not rust, EVER, and you do not need to re-level the area due to the heat from welding, and grinding down the weld which if not done right will weaken the joint. AND, to clarify this, I am not advocating using the Fiberglas in large areas, only in small holes like in the windshield frame situation. On body panels where there is extensive rusting and large areas of metal missing, I glue weld in new metal to be sure. I have been in the restoration business all my life also so don't get me started. I have done it every which way there ever was and more. I am more than satisfied with the results using the POR-15 method. No more come backs, no more rust bubbling up years after and the area is solid and as I said "Better than new" BECAUSE --- tada ------ it will not rust again -----EVER ! Now I must clarify that last statement because someone somewhere will pick it apart. The POR-15 has to encapsulate the metal or it will rust again. If the oxidation process can find a way to get in-between the POR-15 and the metal it will push the POR-15 off and rust is back you can be sure.

>>>>>>Really, Frank...thanks for the giggle of the day -- "better than new when done". How can POR-15 and fiberglass be better than original metal? There is really only ONE way to repair metal to near-new condition, and that, as previously-mentioned, is to cut the rusted area out and weld in, solidly, new metal. <<<<<<<

Cheers,

Frank Condelli Almonte, Ontario, Canada '87 Westy & Lionel Trains (_Collection for sale_ (http://frankcondelli.com/trainsal.htm) ) _Frank Condelli & Associates_ (http://frankcondelli.com/busindex.html) - Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa Valley _Vanagon Stainless Steel Exhaust Systems_ (http://frankcondelli.com/exhaust.htm) _BusFusion_ (http://www.busfusion.com/) a VW Camper camping event, Almonte, ON, June 11 ~ 14, 2009


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