Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:03:14 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: 1988 Rebuilt Engine Stumbling at various RPM levels2100-2300,
3400- 4000r...
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I was talking about the critical funky nature of how waterboxer heads have
to fit just so,
and how some may not.
and I wouldn't have said a word if a comment had not been made about my
comment in the first place.
and it wasn't a rant Mark.
I have never said subaru engines are perfect.
they do have a better head gasket design than a waterboxedr, and yes, it's
not uncommon for subaru engines to have what you mentioin.
I have heard of Legacy auto transmissions going out before you'd think they
should.
I don't own one, and likely never will.
I just see the engines to put in vanagons.......
and I don't say they are the 'knat's ass' for a being a perfect engine
either.
what year, sounds like a US made one to me ?
but .......the point you are trying to make .......at least as far as
concerns me is off,
I do not say subaur's are perfect and VW are junk.
in fact....I have basially zero complaints about 90 % of the vanagon.
Some of the best and longest lasting suspension and drive train there is.
I can think of parts in them that last absolutely indeffenitly - my kinda
car and design !
Easy to work on too.
hey.......you should hear what I think of al 1979 and earlier VW Buses.
now there is are a few things I have opions about.
Mark, that was not a rant ..........it was pointing out weakness, and only
in resonse to someone's challenge.
what did I say in the first place ?
I probaby said 'joke headgaskets' ............and that is my opinion.
Every one has one you know .......just like they have a nose, or another
body part - it's a famous saying if you've heard it.
hey, I like 'em . and I fix 'em all the time. Just wish they'd done it a
little better is all.
do my a favor ......don't read what I write.
thanks.
it's too bad that you can not appreciate how much I admire and respect your
completely far reaching and extra broad knowledge about all aspects vanagon.
Or at least it doesn't seem that you appreciate that about me.
I read every last post of yours since I know I'm likely to learn a detail or
nuance that I didn't know.
have a great day buddy.
and if you think I think subaru's are by far the best car on earth.........I
can't imagine where you get that idea. I've never said they don't blow up,
and that they don't have head gasket issues .....they for sure do, most
deffenitely. I'm sorry you own one. have a great day.
----- Original Message -----
From: "mark drillock" <mdrillock@COX.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: 1988 Rebuilt Engine Stumbling at various RPM levels2100-2300,
3400- 4000r...
> Please spare us the anti VW rant Scott. Problems with AMC aftermarket
> heads are your primary condemnation point? VW did not make those.
>
> My wife has a 1999 Subaru, 102k miles, combustions gases leaking into
> the cooling system. Great modern design, really shows up those Germans.
>
> Subaru auto tranny problems at 70k, CV axles at 80k, wheel bearings at
> 60k, yup way ahead of those Germans.
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>> oh man,
>> do we have start a big debate here ?
>>
>> I'll just say .........
>> the waterboxer is most obviously and purely a converted air-cooled
>> design.
>> If they had any brains,.......the would make the bottom of the head flat
>> ......
>> make the deck of the block flat, and put in a 'real' headgasket,
>> not metal rings and rubber o-rings that get brittle and hard and can't
>> seal
>> anymore after a while.
>>
>> the waterboxer is the ONLY mass produced van or car type engine anywhere,
>> with that silly set up on it.
>>
>> don't get me started - that outer rubber water retention gasket - how
>> well
>> that is compressed depends entirely on the dimensions of the head.
>> I saw one pinch and leak on an AMC head after about a year in service.
>> I checked with EVERYONE about how that could have happened.
>> finally ........a VW dealer tech told me ..........you put the head on
>> without the gasket, for a test fit, and measure that gap, if it's too
>> small,
>> or too large, you try another head !!!
>>
>>.......................
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