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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:34:48 -0700
Reply-To:     neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Where does Hella relay go?
Comments: To: Jeff Hartman <jeffreyleehartman@gmail.com>
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On 8/22/09, Jeff Hartman <jeffreyleehartman@gmail.com> wrote: >.First, no > there are no numbers on that relay other than the ones I noted. There > is also an identical relay in position 5. Other relays, labeled with > big white numbers are 43 (position 3), 18 (position 8), 19 (position > 10), 72 (position 11) , 21 (position 12). I have neither air > conditioning, nor heated seats. The vin number is: WV2XB0259GH025126. > I think this bus was purchased in the U.S. So the open relay slots > that I could have come out of are: 1 (no wires in back), 2(yes wires > in back), 4 (yes wires in back) and 7(yes wires in back). I have it > plugged into relay slot 7 right now. Note, I said earlier I had 8 > relays. Sorry, apparently I can't count, because there are only 7 > relays. One more than identified by Joel and Jeff Seaman for an 86 > van. I don't know of any original electrical acessory that might > account for this 7th relay. But that and where it is supposed to go > is the mystery.

Ok.

Looking at main wiring diagram for "up to VIN G 055 689" starting at relay in upper LH corner above fuses.....

3- coolant level control unit 5- rad cool fan relay 2nd stage 8- load reduction relay 10- intermitt. wash/wiper relay 11- rear window wash/wiper relay 12- emerg. flash/turn sig. relay

Sounds like relays you wrote of, and that Bentley indicates, are present. But.....

YMMV. Bentley is very clear on pages showing relays that there are variations and that one should be careful.

If it were me, I'd check each open relay socket see if power present or switched. Then, I'd disconnect *all* batteries (if aux. battery(s) present) and trace the wires back starting with a physical trace, then confrim with my VOM. Pulling the instrument cluster would help in this regard.

Do you have cruise control, power windows? Just a thought. (though a quick look at Bentley and I don't see relays shown in the upper part of page. i.e. fuse/relay panel)

Hopefully Jake or other actual owner can help. I really don't want to lead you down a path that may be more complex than needed.

Neil.

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