Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 07:06:06 -0700
Reply-To: Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
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From: Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Cool modified DOKA and BRM
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Yeah, but that BRM engine with its two crankshafts when viewed end-on would have had the look of a flopped "H" just as a conventional V8 would resemble a "V" or the I4 VW engines an "I." For Subaru to refer to their engines as H designs goes against the grain of the boxer engines traditionally being called O4 or O6 (or O-whatever) engines.
Say what you will about Subaru engineering, they are no less subject to the need for marketing doublespeak; witness their Symmetrical All Wheel Drive. What the heck is that supposed to mean? Are we to infer from that name that other manufacturers' systems are other-than-symmetrical and, if so, what difference does it make?
Stephen (occasionally bugged by advertising)
--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote:
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Cool modified DOKA
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 11:10 PM
"H" has been used over the years, here and there, like 'V' in V-8 to
designate horizonally oppsed engine.
the first time I ever saw it used was a BRM Formula One racing engine , in
the UK, .........it was two horrizonatally oppossed flat 8's with the two
cranks joined by gears - they called it an H-16.
( there thinking was that piston surface area was the key to high power
output, and to keep bore/stroke ratio rasonable ........that meant lots of
cylinders.
They went overboard though- complexity, friction, and weight doomed the
engine from the start ).
The SVX subaru engine - opposed 6 ......right on the plastic engine cover it
says "H6 24 valve" .
Personally, I like 'horizontally oppossed' over "H" or 'boxer.'
how's your H-6 air cooled engine and vanagon doing Vern !?
I sure would love to retrofit subaru fuel injection to it !
how about this ..........we'll use 4 cylinder subaru injection, we'll weld
up an intake manifold, and we'll put 4 injectors in a central location
.......
a lot like Throttle Body Injection systems are , but we'll have 4 centrally
loacted injectors .......feeding the six cyclinders.
Just a thought.
I saw an 88 Volvo 740 turbo with water cooled bearings in a junk yard
today - perhaps your engine would like a mild boost too .
Scott
www.turbovans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vern in Bend" <vernmcintosh@EONI.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: Cool modified DOKA
>> It's an EZ30 or EZ35 from a Legacy or Tribeca. Why Subaru decided on
>> "H" I dunno... Hs usually only have 4 legs. Maybe they got together
>> with VW's spindoctors and suffered from double-V-ision?
>>
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> H = Horizontal ?
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> Vern McIntosh
> Bend, Oregon
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