Vanagon EuroVan
Previous messageNext messagePrevious in topicNext in topicPrevious by same authorNext by same authorPrevious page (September 2009, week 1)Back to main VANAGON pageJoin or leave VANAGON (or change settings)ReplyPost a new messageSearchProportional fontNon-proportional font
Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 2009 07:06:06 -0700
Reply-To:     Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Cool modified DOKA and BRM
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <00bd01ca2b7a$e30328c0$6401a8c0@PROSPERITY>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Yeah, but that BRM engine with its two crankshafts when viewed end-on would have had the look of a flopped "H" just as a conventional V8 would resemble a "V" or the I4 VW engines an "I."  For Subaru to refer to their engines as H designs goes against the grain of the boxer engines traditionally being called O4 or O6  (or O-whatever) engines.    Say what you will about Subaru engineering, they are no less subject to the need for marketing doublespeak; witness their Symmetrical All Wheel Drive.  What the heck is that supposed to mean?  Are we to infer from that name that other manufacturers' systems are other-than-symmetrical and, if so, what difference does it make?   Stephen (occasionally bugged by advertising)

--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote:

From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> Subject: Re: Cool modified DOKA To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 11:10 PM

"H" has been used over the years, here and there, like 'V' in V-8 to designate horizonally oppsed engine. the first time I ever saw it used was a BRM Formula One racing engine , in the UK, .........it was two horrizonatally oppossed flat 8's with the two cranks joined by gears - they called it an H-16. ( there thinking was that piston surface area was the key to high power output, and to keep bore/stroke ratio rasonable ........that meant lots of cylinders. They went overboard though- complexity, friction, and weight doomed the engine from the start ).

The SVX subaru engine - opposed 6 ......right on the plastic engine cover it says "H6 24 valve" . Personally, I like 'horizontally oppossed' over "H" or 'boxer.'

how's your H-6 air cooled engine and vanagon doing Vern !? I sure would love to retrofit subaru fuel injection to it ! how about this ..........we'll use 4 cylinder subaru injection, we'll weld up an intake manifold, and we'll put 4 injectors in a central location ....... a lot like Throttle Body Injection systems are , but we'll have 4 centrally loacted injectors .......feeding the six cyclinders. Just a thought. I saw an 88 Volvo 740 turbo with water cooled bearings in a junk yard today - perhaps your engine would like a mild boost too .

Scott www.turbovans.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Vern in Bend" <vernmcintosh@EONI.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:42 PM Subject: Re: Cool modified DOKA

>> It's an EZ30 or EZ35 from a Legacy or Tribeca. Why Subaru decided on >> "H" I dunno... Hs usually only have 4 legs. Maybe they got together >> with VW's spindoctors and suffered from double-V-ision? >> >> > > H = Horizontal ? > > > Vern McIntosh > Bend,  Oregon


Back to: Top of message | Previous page | Main VANAGON page

Please note - During the past 17 years of operation, several gigabytes of Vanagon mail messages have been archived. Searching the entire collection will take up to five minutes to complete. Please be patient!


Return to the archives @ gerry.vanagon.com


The vanagon mailing list archives are copyright (c) 1994-2011, and may not be reproduced without the express written permission of the list administrators. Posting messages to this mailing list grants a license to the mailing list administrators to reproduce the message in a compilation, either printed or electronic. All compilations will be not-for-profit, with any excess proceeds going to the Vanagon mailing list.

Any profits from list compilations go exclusively towards the management and operation of the Vanagon mailing list and vanagon mailing list web site.