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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 2009 19:59:29 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Vanagons and part
Comments: To: Bruce Todd <beeceetee@GMAIL.COM>
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I do think there is a sad trend toward parts made of lesser quality than original ones, and even of lesser quality than ones we could get 10 years ago. The 'made in china' affect we might call it- whether from Israel, India, or Turkey, or .......you name it .

The only clutch I have ever used on vanagons is Sachs. When you order one these days - or at least from my supplier, or form me, it's a rebuilt in Mexico originally-German made Sahcs pressure plate. The disc might be totally new. The price if very decent. I have had nothing but 100 % success with these clutches in vanagons - period ! Since 1991 ........and counting. Knowing what parts to use, and where to get them .........perhaps the shop is not really clued in there, or they don't want to 'think' too much. I will also say that I value quality in a part first, good service next, and 'low price' ...........that is way, way down the list of priorities. So far down, 'low price' isn't even on my radar screen. But Quality with a captial Q sure is, and good service of course. I mean........so what if you save say, 30 % on the price, but the quality is half of what you really want ? I belive that's called false economy.

And Luk brand cluthes - I used, or tried to use one of those ONCE - many years ago. There was something just not right about it. Pressure plate didn't fit perfectly, something like that ..........that's just my experience with that brand one time, others may have a different experience. But I've never had a problem with a Sachs clutch in a vanagon. Stick with what works by golly !

I suspect the real truth is 'they are getting harder for us to make good fast money on."

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Todd" <beeceetee@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 7:03 PM Subject: Re: Vanagons and part

>I also suspect that there are many poor parts being manufactured these days > and VW repair shops often end up getting burned for a repair that goes bad > due to the malfunctioning of a cheap third world part. > > My mechanic sent a clutch back that he was about to install for me - > citing > it was a hunk of %$^&%. > > So in some ways I don't blame the honesty and frustration coming from the > North Shore shop. > > BT


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