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Date:         Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:54:17 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 1.9 ltr WBX O2 sensor question?
Comments: To: T Collins <tonycollin@GMAIL.COM>
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The O2 sensor develops it signal real time. It can be easily checked with a voltmeter set to the 2 volt scale. Needs to be able to react quickly. A meter with the bar graph makes this easy. The O2 sensor develops a small voltage based on difference of O2 between the exhaust and outside air. It is somewhat proportional with .5 volt being ~.5% CO. When thing are working normally the ECU responds and compensates ~30/second.

As others have mentioned that wire is a coaxial shielded cable. If the shield is connected to the center signal wire then the sensor is shorted. The ECU will respond by trying to enrich the mixture until the signal is there. Run away rich and on the 2.1L this will put it into black smoke mode.

The O2 sensor needs to get hot in order for it to work. Originally it was covered with insulation. Road wind can cool it off and road debris can foul it. Make up something to protect it. An upgrade for the 1.9L engines is to use a heated sensor such as is used on the 2.1L. You can take power from the coil or fuel pump circuit.

After you resolve the O2 I can help with the basic settings and control the sometimes idle surge.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of T Collins Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:22 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: 1.9 ltr WBX O2 sensor question?

Hello Folks,

How quickly does the O2 sensor give a signal to the ECU? I notice a split on the green wire connector to the sensor. I patched it with a new connector. I noticed that the green wire seem like 2 wires one inside another sheet. Does that seem familiar?

I am still having problems with what seems to be Vanagon Syndrome. I am trying to find out why the van will idle fine and smooth for a minute or two and then miss idle. The timing mark is steady with the split on the case until a minute or two then it jumps around from the case point and then to the left (facing the van from the rear) drivers side of the van.

If driven the van still runs like poo, buck and continues to stumble

The idle then becomes ever so erratic. What could make this mark jump like so?

Spark: New spark plugs (double checked the gap) New plug wires New rotor New cap Timed with static light using recomendations on rpm and timing settings.

Air: Vacuum lines checked with carb cleaner Little vacuum lines replaced New air cleaner New injector seals

Fuel: New pre pump fuel filter (the square one) New fuel lines Pump seems to be humming along

Grounds: All grounds to the chassis under coil there checked and cleaned.

I am missing something....I just dont know what it is:

Plan: Replace temp II sensor Place capasitor on AFM Check O2 sensor Re-time (x100)

Thanks, Tony -- 82 Scirocco "Rodolfo" 85 Vanagon "El Guapo" 90 Fuji Ace


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