Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:52:44 -0400
Reply-To:     Robert Stewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
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From:         Robert Stewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
Subject:      Re: Looking for a good fuel injector rail- East Coast preffered
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Thank you for everyones responses.

I cleaned and inspected the rails before they went back on and they
were fine. No rust what so ever. Never had a problem before now.

The injectors came from GoWesty and 2 yrs old now. The rubber is good
for sure. When the issue first surface the Mechanic who did the work,
clamped the the hell out of it. I can see the rubber bulging out now.
I am going to loosen since I know that's not the problem. Possibly in
his over tightening he may have damaged the injector rubber?

Of the two options, I like Dennis's solution. It's simple, easily
available and easy to fix.  Andrew Libby on the Samba suggested
exactly the same thing. It seems easily available and I don't have to
wait for parts to arrive. Thought the Harbor Freight product does look
promising.

I am thinking that the T's that connected in the middle get high
pressure fuel hose with injector clamps. The end of the joined T's are
the feed and return? The two center units of the T are the injectors.
All hoses get there injector clamps and the job is done.

Now should I expect any performance issues?

Robert
NY
On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:

> oh right,
> yes, the ole rust factor.
> They don't rust in the west that I've seen.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "craig cowan" <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Looking for a good fuel injector rail- East Coast
> preffered
>
>
>> I've seen them fail in person, and heard stories of terror from many
>> including people I know.
>> The ends rust off and the whole thing just pops off spraying fuel
>> at high
>> pressure.
>> If you have the foresight to replace your fuel lines, careful
>> inspection
>> of
>> these parts, particularly the steel ends, seems crucial to me.....
>> particularly for those in rust belts.
>>
>> -Craig Cowan
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
>> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>>
>>> are you saying your plastic fuel rail is leaking ?
>>> I've always been amazed at how great that plastic is.
>>> I have like 20 good used ones.
>>> I have never seen one fail ever, except in fire.
>>> Sure wish they would have made the instrument cluster housing out
>>> of that
>>> same kind of plastic !
>>> Scott
>>> www.turbovans.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Robert Stewart" <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 12:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Looking for a good fuel injector rail- East Coast
>>> preffered
>>>
>>>
>>> Update, Just called my local VW dealer and was told they are no
>>> longer
>>>> available.
>>>>
>>>> We need a metal unit made to replace the plastic.
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering if something for another vehicle might fit it?
>>>>
>>>> Do rails from any other VW cars from the late 80's work as a
>>>> replacement?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 28, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Robert Stewart wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> So after my rebuilt engine went in, drove it for 400 miles I
>>>>> realized
>>>>> that my injector rail on the right side of the engine (on the side
>>>>> where the 02 sensor is) was leaking.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is leaking from the injector that is closest to the back seat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now these were the original rails on the van and I never had an
>>>>> issue
>>>>> with them before. I am not sure if my mechanic over tightened the
>>>>> clamp down when he put the injectors on the rail or what but I am
>>>>> definitely noticing a small amount of fuel seeping out of the area
>>>>> near the bottom of clamp on the rail.
>>>>>
>>>>> I called Bus Depot but Rick told me they no longer have them.
>>>>> Called
>>>>> GoWesty and neither to do they. Nor do they have any kind of
>>>>> custom
>>>>> replacement in development.
>>>>>
>>>>> So does anyone on the east coast have a good one for me?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Robert
>>>>> Bloomingburg NY
>>>>>
>>>>