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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:01:17 -0700
Reply-To:     Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Cleaning up your Vanagon
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" I do wonder about the heavy oil we are recommended to use (15W50 or 20W50) increasing fuel demand. "

As I understand multigrade oils, they work at low temps like the lighter (lower of the two numbers) grade and at high temps like the heavier grade, thereby providing uniform performance over a wide operating temperature range. 

As for improved economy, lower with skinny tires and full belly pan may be the way to go.  You first.

Stephen

--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> wrote:

From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> Subject: Re: Cleaning up your Vanagon To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 7:12 PM

Al, you make important points.  One quibble.  Is the Zetec cleaner? I've heard that it cannot pass California emissions test.  Waterboxers properly maintained pass, don't they?  Or am I completely off on this one?  Where I live, the politicians and citizenry are insufficiently enlightened to require emissions tests.  Oklahomans generally think pollution is a good thing, it smells like money (27% of the state's economy is directly due to the oil industry).

I do try to keep my vanagon up to snuff, properly tuned and so on.  I do wonder about the heavy oil we are recommended to use (15W50 or 20W50) increasing fuel demand.  Or is that a myth, too?

Dave Mc

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Al Knoll wrote:

> With all the talk over bad polluters, and the half truth that some not > all > of our beloved road divas are among them, perhaps we need to consider > making > our vanagons better citizens. > > As a start, to reduce total pollutants measured in pollutants per > mile, just > drive it fewer miles.  This is the simplest solution. > > Keep it tuned, and aligned, and the tires (o no Mr. Bill) inflated so > you > maximize your miles per gallon thus minimizing your pollutants per > mile. > > Change the oil often.  Change the air filter often.  Change the fuel > filter > often.  Might help, can't hurt. > > Drive 55, proven to enhance MPG, after all it is a touring car, so > tour. > > Road rage is what happens when you have a 130mph 50K$ 15MPG > 'investment' and > you spend most of your time with your teeth clenched surrounded by > your > fellow man on the superslab at 20MPH stop and go. > > More expensive options include upgrading gearing, tires and wheels and > brakes, and the pollution device, the legendary wasserp*sser engine, > with > its 1980s engine management technology. > > What if you could improve your fuel economy by 30%?  You get 24mpg > instead > of 18mpg or so.  A motor with a modern engine management system emits > far > less pollutants on a bad day than the WP does on it's best day.  If > your > fool consumption drops by 30% so does the pollutants per mile.  er ah > 'fuel > consumption' it should be. > > The options are out there.  Zetec, Subaru and others to be sure.  All > a > cleaner solution than you can ever have with the WP.  Not inexpensive > and > you'll never get all the expense back but it will make you feel better > and > run cleaner.  AND your impact on the state of global affairs didn't > involve > making a new car with all the inherent unspoken environmental impact > that > that entails. > > You could move to NYC and ride public transit or walk and just pass > the diva > on to some appreciative soul who promises not to sacrifice her in her > dotage > as a 'clunker' to a future 'discount'  on  a brand new fluffmobile in > which > you cannot sleep. > > What else does the group.wisdom think would improve our sorry lot? > > Pensionerd.


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