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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:28:42 -0400
Reply-To:     mcneely4@COX.NET
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Vanagon emissions
Comments: To: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@Q.COM>
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Almost certainly all true, Karl. But, many on this list evidently use their vanagons for daily driving according to statements they've made, some in city conditions. So .... the criticism that is offered for the pick-up drivers who do the same applies here. Different kinds of vehicles have different uses. If a vehicle is used as a passenger car, it is in effect a passenger car, and is not taking advantage of its extra cargo capacity or other functions that passenger cars lack. If I'm not camping, I don't drive my camper. I drive my Prius (which evidently has a dangerous floor mat, according to news reports yesterday -- a dangerous floor mat -- good grief!).

Dave Mc

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Karl Wolz wrote:

> Not an expert on emissions; others on this list are. From what I've > been > reading, some states have adopted the CA standard while others use the > US > standard. There may be some variations in testing, etc. but there > seem to > be only two actual standards, and those may only relate to new > vehicles. > > I have been hearing for a long time how "dirty" our vans are, but > looking up > the CA and US standards for LDT2 (the category our vans would fall > into), > and the emissions readings posted by David B earlier today (which > coincide > with my own readings), we're not far off the fleet readings for new > light > trucks. > > Could I have misinterpreted the EPA charts? Heck yes, but I don't > think so. > If our vans are tuned correctly, they seem to be pretty darned clean. > Now, > if you're comparing apples and oranges and comparing our vans to the > new > ultra clean burn vehicles, which are mostly passenger vehicles, then, > sure, > they are dirty, but compared to current light trucks/small vans, they > seem > to hold their own. > > If anyone has actual numbers to prove otherwise, let us all know, but > remember to keep your fruits in a row! > > Karl Wolz > > > Don't know 'where' you are talking about, but I believe emission > limits have > gotten tighter and tighter a bit at a time, > year by year, for a long time. Thinking of Ca. mainly. Can't say > about > other states. Some are quite lax.


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