Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:10:23 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: HELP in Riverton, WY - Engine Flooding
Comments: To: Jim Arnott <jrasite@EONI.COM>
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sure would be nice if that was it all right,
and it's likely his needs adjustment or replacement ........
but it's not my experience that mileage is so desperately bad if the switch
does not tell the ecu that it's at idle.
'cause I find 'em not making contact at idle all the time, and it's nothing
like 10 mpg as a result.
though I don't doubt your experience and repair with good result.

if you think the switch is expensive, price out a throttle body.
I only did once, for a 1.9, about 8 years ago. The dealer list price was
obscene , something like 700 some dollars.
I was ready to put one on a customer's van if it was say, 250 .........but
for near thrice  that ........no thanks !
:- )
by sheer luck ( and buying used dead vans ) I am driving a 2.1 in an 85
Adventurewagon with 2.1 intake and exhaust systems.......
and it appears to have an absolutely new throttle body and switch.

Scott
turbovans


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Arnott" <jrasite@EONI.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: HELP in Riverton, WY - Engine Flooding


>I was going to suggest.... However, my experience was on a 1.9, not a
> 2.1 so I didn't. It probably was the throttle switch.  It apparently
> tells the ECU to go to full rich.  When mine failed, I used 12 gallons
> of fuel going 50 miles.  Make it REALLY rich.
>
> Change that switch and all should be well. (You will not like VW's
> price for it.  it was $85 in 1995 when mine broke. Prolly NLA now.)
>
> Jim
>
> On Oct 5, 2009, at 5:07 PM, James V wrote:
>
>> Regardless, after swapping the AFM and the mechanic fiddling w/ the
>> throttle switch, the van started.  He wouldn't charge me, but I gave
>> him the cash I had on hand.  I then proceeded to drive the
>> thousand-ish miles home without incident.  Changed the oil - this
>> didn't occur to me until I was nearly home :(