Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:23:06 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: HELP in Riverton, WY - Engine Flooding
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Very good advise on changing the oil as soon as it fixed.
My mind goes to stuck open injector or two.
there is no cold start valve btw .........not on Vanagons.
I would pull the injectors, ( just one 10 mm hex head screw ) and hang them
out where you can see the, still on their fuel hoses, crank the engine,
watch the spray pattern.
( disable ignition .- pull the black wire of coil terminal 15 so you don't
have a change of any sparks while fuel is spraying ) .......
and see what the injectors do.
You could have one that never really shuts off properly.
If you get moving, and you are southbound and on Interstate 5 in southern
Oregon .......
if you can make it to my shop .........we can get it fixed, for sure. I have
endless vanagon parts, and good access to quality, usually german, new
parts.
I'm just off Exit 24 .......Phoenix Oregon.
Vanagon travelers often stop by for on the road repairs, emergency repairs,
or projects we do on their van ... sometimes they do most of the hands on
work under my direction, etc. Or sometimes I'm the tech, and they don't do
any of the work, and sometimes we do it together, have a great time, you
get to learn more about keeping your vanagon happy etc.
I'm imaging an injector very stuck open, or something like that. Being so
bad, it might not be that hard a thing to find the reason for. - whether
just super rich or whatever.....but even 'super rich' you don't get fuel
coming out of the tail pipe. It has gasoline ( and not diesel or something
else ) in it, right ?
Scott
www.turbovans.com
541 951 8151
and .........with me, it's never like you have to sit waiting two days for
my shop to open Monday morning or whatever. I've rescued or helped vanagon
people on a Sunday night even.
.
----- Original Message -----
From: "James V" <tornadored@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: HELP in Riverton, WY - Engine Flooding
> On 10/2/09, Don Hundt <dhundt@bendbroadband.com> wrote:
>> Whatever else you do, after you get it fixed, change the oil. With so
>> much
>> gas that it came out the exhaust, you probably got a fair amount past
>> your
>> rings and into the crankcase.
>> Good luck,
>> Don
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "James V" <tornadored@GMAIL.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:41 PM
>> Subject: HELP in Riverton, WY - Engine Flooding
>>
>>
>>> Hello List,
>>>
>>> I am in Riverton, Wyoming, trying to get back to So Cal. I just spent
>>> a week in Yellowstone, and my 88 westy had some intermittent problems
>>> starting, getting worse in the last couple days. (turning, just takes
>>> several tries to start).
>>>
>>> If the car had been running a while, and I turned it off, it would
>>> start up fine again. However, it seems that if the car sat for for
>>> about 45 min to 3 hrs, it would be more likely to have trouble
>>> starting. But, from dead-cold in the morning, it seems to start ok.
>>>
>>> This morning, I started it up okay, then let it idle. It suddenly
>>> shut off after about 5-7 min, and I have been unable to restart since.
>>> It seems it's flooded and upon inspection there is fuel leaking from
>>> the exhaust. Really flooded.
>>>
>>> None of the shops in town can get to my van until Monday... something
>>> about hunting season. Although, a mechanic I talked to *might* be
>>> able to get to it if he has time. In the meantime, he said to open up
>>> the intake to let it air out. His first guesses would be coolant temp
>>> sensor, AFM, and cold start valve. I replaced temp sensor a week ago.
>>> I have a spare AFM that I will put in. Not sure what to do about
>>> testing/replacing the cold start valve. He said to try starting it
>>> with the pedal floored in "flood mode."
>>>
>>> Anyway, after swapping the AFM, I'm gonna give it another go, and
>>> hopefully the mechanic will become available if needed. But in the
>>> meantime, if anyone can offer ANY advice/assistance I'd really
>>> appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Please pmail. If you're kind enough to leave a phone number, even
>>> better. Gotta run... will check back in if I can.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> James
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>>
>>
> Thanks guys. Van is moving. Will follow up later.
> james
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