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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:09:31 -0400
Reply-To:     mcneely4@COX.NET
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From:         Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject:      Re: VW Campground Reviews
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Well, maybe I'll get something right. Looked at the Crater Lake NP site. At the concessioner operated campground, Mazatlan Village, there are RV sites. The smaller, park operated campground (Lost Creek) does not have them. I do recall that when I was there several years ago, there was a giant, parking lot type RV park outside the south entrance, and I thought no RV sites in the park. Maybe I was remembering Lost Creek but forgetting Mazatlan. At any rate, I was tent camping at the time at Lost Creek, but there was a family with a pickup camper at the campground, and they had no tent. Don't know if the family slept in the camper, or al fresco (can I use that term this way?). If they did, they got snowed on in mid-August. We did too, but we were in a tent.

David McNeely

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote:

> Sorry about the links I posted. The www is not needed. > > You're right, Loren, that the rules do say that "passengers" will be > admitted. But, at some parks, I have been charged for passengers over > four total including driver. That's why Bonnie and I both have > passes. > > The great thing about some NPs is that NO entrance fee is charged. > Still think that portable houses (RVs, Motor Homes, whatever folks > choose to call them) should have to pay anyway, or even better, they > should not be allowed, as resource hogs. At least like in Crater > Lake, > ban them from camping in the park. David McNeely > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Loren Busch wrote: > >> RE: Park Pass Rules >> A previously posted link isn't working. Try here for the rules >> regarding >> Senior Passes >> >> Note that the limit of four in a vehicle is NOT absolute. At parks >> that >> charge a per-vehicle fee you could have half your home town in the >> rig >> and >> all would get in. >> >> The problem in Washington State is that the 'rule' is not a rule, >> it's >> written into the State laws, the RCW (Revised Code of Washington). >> After a >> WetWesties gathering here in Washington a few years ago, where this >> issue >> became an issue when there was a limited number of camping sites >> open, >> several WetWesties got in contact with the State Parks and in fact >> had >> a >> very frank and sympathetic email discussion on the subject with the >> staff at >> the State level. They agreed that it made no sense that small >> RVs/Campers >> like our Westfalias could not double up but their hands were tied. >> The >> problem at that time (and still as far as I know) was that when you >> pulled >> into a campground, found an open site, parked and went to register, >> the >> posted rules in the campground said simply "Second vehicle $5" and >> nothing >> indicated that the second vehicle could not have built in sleeping >> accommodations. So you pull into a campground, register in >> compliance >> to >> the posted rules, and then later are told by the host or the Ranger >> that the >> second vehicle is not allowed. And the same situation exists in many >> of the >> State campgrounds in Oregon, though not in all. As I pointed out in >> a >> previous post this is not a problem in Federal campgrounds and many >> of >> them >> don't even have a fee for the second vehicle. I actually had the >> second >> vehicle fee handed back to me by a park ranger one time even though a >> second >> vehicle fee was posted at the registration kiosk. And on a recent >> trip, my >> traveling companion driving a 23 foot RV and me in my Westy, we >> parked >> double in several Federal campgrounds without any additional fees. >> In >> one >> case, where the camping fee was $12 per site, we ended up paying $3 >> each >> because we both had Senior Passes.

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