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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:13:51 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Muffler Source?
Comments: To: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <4AE08E1F.5010401@gmail.com>
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One beauty of the S&S exhaust is that in a few years you won't forget what it looks like. From the poor fit at first to the muffler breaking and then the slip fit connections causing problems you will be a frequent viewer. For the 1.9L the only OEM style exhaust now available in the Dansk stuff. There are a few muffler options. You can also upgrade the 2.1L exhaust including the mounting if you also change the rear engine mount bracket. The Stebro exhaust does address most issues although the fit can sometimes need a little effort.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Rocket J Squirrel Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:54 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Muffler Source?

Oops -- my bad -- S&S does not equal stainless steel. Learn something new every day.

This is a project I have to get done, so I'm sniffing around the options.

Looks like I have to first determine the condition of the muffler holder-upper strap. I know it's also a good idea to pull the cat and look at its input side to see if new is needed, but I am uncomfortable with the idea of taking the van to a shop for this work, and having it out of commish for a while if it turns out that a cat is warranted, but don't really want to buy one upfront "in case."

So I dither.

<blubs lower lip with finger>

-- Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") 74 Westrailia: (Ladybug Trailer company, San Juan Capistrano, Calif.) Bend, OR KG6RCR

On 10/22/2009 8:04 AM The Bus Depot wrote:

>> Such a wondrous all-in-one stainless combo not available >> for the 1.9l? The search tool didn't present it. > > > First of all, S&S is a brand name - it is not Stainless Steel. And yes, it > is available for 1.9L as well. That said, with all respect to Ken, we don't > agree on this one. I too sell both the S&S and stock systems, but when it > comes to my own Vanagon I use the stock system. In my opinion the S&S, > although perfectly fine for the price, exemplifies the old adage "you get > what you pay for" when compared to the stock system. There is an obvious > difference in the gauge of the steel, the S&S muffler being visibly less > substantial than stock. Also it is smaller and louder. And the price > difference just isn't that huge. The stock muffler setup works out to > roughly $200 (including muffler, tailpipe, gaskets, and strap), versus $145 > for the S&S. In my opinion the extra fifty bucks or so for the stock system > is money well spent. In fact even if the difference were twice that much I'd > still call the stock system the better long-term value. > > Stock setup diagram and pricing: > > http://busdepot.com/details/exhaust19.jsp (1.9L) > > http://busdepot.com/details/exhaust21.jsp (2.1L) > > - Ron Salmon > The Bus Depot, Inc. > www.busdepot.com > (215) 234-VWVW > > _____________________________________________ > Toll-Free for Orders by PART # : 1-866-BUS-DEPOT >


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