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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:34:53 -0600
Reply-To:     Bob Stevens <mtbiker62@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Bob Stevens <mtbiker62@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Vanagon Winter Survival Kit Question
In-Reply-To:  <4aea4626.9653f10a.72c3.ffffaa59@mx.google.com>
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I almost always pick up the plastic 2 1/2 gal. containers of spring/drinking water leaving on a trip. I've also started carrying one of those 7 1/2 gal. containers just leaving it in the van and filling it whenever needed. Both have gotten frozen without any problem. Drive a few hours on the road toward the destination and everything in the van is drinkable. The only container I drain after every trip and let dry out, is the 13 gal. Westy tank.

While camping in freezing conditions, it takes about 20-30 minutes of Propex-time for the sink faucet to function, and that's with the coffee pot percolating on the burner as well. I ALWAYS fill that the night before whether summer or winter camping. Just habit.

I've never been without water due to freezing nor had water leak from a cracked-after-freezing container. None. So far! ;-)

bob

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@cfu.net>wrote:

> Well, it's almost Friday so this slightly off topic question will get > asked. We are all aware that packing any winter survival kit for our > Vanagons should include fluids to stay hydrated. My question is how > do you folks keep your fluids from freezing when winter gets really > cold out. Bringing water or other beverages into and out of the car > each time we drive isn't the answer, so what's Vanagon driver to do? > > Generic gallon water bottles won't survive the expansion once the > water does freeze, and draining 1/4 or so of the fluid to allow for > expansion, but then you don't get as much fluid. Would loading > sugared drinks or juices lessen the chance of freezing? I was > hoping to put maybe some cranapple juice in a Lexan Nalgene bottle or > two and wondered if the stiff walls and a little bit of space for > expansion might be a solution. I'm not so worried about the fluid > freezing as it can be warmed up in several ways, but I would like to > find a fairly bullet proof method of storing the liquid. thanks in advance > > DM&FS >


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