Date:         Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:02:26 -0700
Reply-To:     Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Vanagon Winter Survival Kit Question
Comments: To: Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
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I'm sure someone will jokingly recommend packing a bottle Old (insert favorite alcoholic beverage name here) but keep in mind that liquor at -20F is still be liquid but is also still at -20F and might damage your innards if ingested at that temp.
 
Stephen

--- On Thu, 10/29/09, Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET> wrote:


From: Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
Subject: Vanagon Winter Survival Kit Question
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 9:49 PM


Well, it's almost Friday so this slightly off topic question will get
asked.  We are all aware that packing any winter survival kit for our
Vanagons should include fluids to stay hydrated.  My question is how
do you folks keep your fluids from freezing when winter gets really
cold out.  Bringing water or other beverages into and out of the car
each time we drive isn't the answer, so what's Vanagon driver to do?

Generic gallon water bottles won't survive the expansion once the
water does freeze, and draining 1/4 or so of the fluid to allow for
expansion, but then you don't get as much fluid.  Would loading
sugared drinks  or juices lessen the chance of freezing?  I was
hoping to put maybe some cranapple juice in a Lexan Nalgene bottle or
two and wondered if the stiff walls and a little bit of space for
expansion might be a solution.  I'm not so worried about the fluid
freezing as it can be warmed up in several ways, but I would like to
find a fairly bullet proof method of storing the liquid.  thanks in advance

DM&FS