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Date:         Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:25:53 -0400
Reply-To:     mcneely4@COX.NET
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From:         Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Vanagon Winter Survival Kit Question
Comments: To: Rob <becida@COMCAST.NET>
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I assume that by "western Washington State" you mean west of the Cascades. So, you are unlikely to freeze things like canned goods, and likely you could make it through the winter with water in the tank. I can't do that and won't try it. I'm just concerned about my camping trip. I'll most likely just take jugs of water, and leave the system dry. Don't want to risk damage. Is that what others do?

Thanks, David

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Rob wrote:

> At 10/30/2009 09:13 AM, Richard Jones wrote: >>> so, you don't worry about damage to the tank, tubing, and faucet >>> when >>>> camping in winter? >> >> Someone can do the math, but it would take quite a while for >> the 13 gals of water to freeze. What freezes is the drain-- >> the extension of the tank and cap--it is sticking outside, too. >> >> I have not camped where the interior was below freezing more >> than overnight. Even so, I have had a plug of ice form in >> the drain. That was unintentional and I'll try to avoid it >> again--by draining the tank, if necessary. > > I had a 13 year vacation in the midwest and one of the first things I > learned was that winter was different, I was not on the west coast. > > Everything that could freeze solid, expand and later leak when it > thawed would. That first year there was the last year for leaving > anything liquid in the bus, canned food included. > > The midwest climate being so different from anything else I knew I > had to ask a friend at work (he was from WI) about what to watch for. > He told me to not leave home without enough clothes on to survive > sliding on the ice and getting stuck in a snow bank, there were no > 'quick trips to the corner store' in the winter. > > I'm back on the west coast but my water system on the '84 Westy will > be drained for winter, I'll leave the canned goods. The survival > water pouches made to survive freezing sound good but if you are in a > really cold place you'd need a heat source to thaw the water. For > myself out here I put the heavy sleeping bag & coat in the Westy & > I'll try some water bottles stored in the fridge (in a plastic water > proof box just in case). If I go camping I'll take more water. > > I did buy one of those propane little buddy type heaters to keep in > the bus behind the passenger seat. > > > > > > > Rob > > becida@comcast.net > Western Washington State, USA


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