Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:09:02 -0700
Reply-To: Bob Stevens <mtbiker62@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Bob Stevens <mtbiker62@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Vanagon Winter Survival Kit Question
In-Reply-To: <vanagon%2009110112015482@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
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Why don't you guys take your pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-informative pissing
contest
off the list as it has no appeal or value any longer. Deal with each other
privately.
bob
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Rob <becida@comcast.net> wrote:
> At 11/1/2009 03:23 AM,Mike S wrote:
>
>> At 01:01 AM 11/1/2009, Rob wrote...
>>
>>> Extra heat? That is the wood burning in addition to the wax.
>>>
>>
>> Hey, just like an artificial log! But, wax holds much more heat
>> energy than wood, so your claim doesn't make sense, since the one
>> could just use more wax in place of the wood. (paraffin ~= 20,000
>> BTU/lb, wood ~= 6,000)
>>
>
> Try it and see or just bad mouth it?
>
>
>
> I know what you mean. If you don't study or research things, and
>> just believe "old wive's tales," then you don't always make good
>> choices. Don't you wish you had found out sooner that aspen holds
>> 14.7M BTU/cord, weighs 2290 lbs/cord, and produces 6419 BTU/lb,
>> while white oak holds 25.7M BTU/cord, and weighs 4012 lbs/cord,
>> which is 6405 BTU/lb? So, the difference is a full 0.2% in energy
>> per pound. The US Forest Service ranks pine at the top.
>>
>
>
> The problem here is you are mixing volumes (a cord) with weight.
> A cord of hardwood has more energy in it than a cord of softwood, a
> lot more (this is a volume measurement), and it weighs more. You put
> the same measure (volume) of sawdust in a can and there is more heat
> in the hardwood saw dust. Putting saw dust in a coffee can is a volume
> thing.
>
> I don't know anything about presto-logs but I have talked to one
> person who used one of these survival candles.
>
> My "claim" is that I talked to someone who used one, it is easy to
> make and would store well in the back of a Vanagon and if you ever
> really needed it it might help. What are you claiming on all this? Do
> you have a point to this? Why are we wasting bandwidth on this? What
> is your point?
>
> Add something useful or stir the pot, <shrug>. I'm tired of dealing
> with your stirring but will jump back in if you add something useful to
> this.
>
>
>
>
> Rob
> becida@comcast.net
>
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