Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:49:42 -0800
Reply-To:     David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
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From:         David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
Subject:      Re: Volvo B230FT Engine --> Vanagon? 944 turbo?
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Having run a majorly modded TDI on a Syncro Gearbox with circa 350ft/lbs
or torque.  You WILL kill 3rd and 4th gear unless they are
aftermarket ones with big teeth.  I killed 3rd by hauling a trailer
with a quad on it it going up a hill - factory gears are way too weak.

Next failure point is the CVs, ate these like crazy until I put in
108mm Porsche 930 units.

Next failure point is accelerated wear
of the ring and pinion and bearings for the ring and pinion.  I ran
redline MTL, changed it once a year.  

200 to 250 ft.lbs
is the max I would ever run thru a Vanagon gear box.  It's a van, not
a race car or a heavy truck.

David Marshall
VW Adventure
Driver and BMW Adventure Rider
 
http://www.hasenwerk.ca

On Tue, November 3, 2009 18:54, pdooley wrote:
> You can
get 400hp from a VW 16V motor with a big turbo and proper
>
management.  I don't think getting the power is the issue.
> I
wouldn't want to bolt up a monster to a vgon trans, seeing how the 3-4
> slider fails with stock power levels.  If the slider didn't let go
the
> diff
> or the gears themselves would be next.
> If the trans did hold up the big box would be deadly without a
brake/wheel
> and suspension upgrade.
> Then there's that
high center of gravity thing.   I know the vgon handles
> well for
what it is, but it is still a van.
> 
> I think 150hp is
probably ideal for most apps.
> 
> -----Original
Message-----
>
From: Vanagon Mailing List
[mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Don Hanson
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:04 PM
> To:
vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: was: Volvo B230FT Engine
--> Vanagon? 944 turbo?
> 
> How bout a 944 turbo motor
in a Vanagon, since we're talking big motors?
> Some of my buddies
from PCA racing were making 375 rwhp with those motors.
> I have
one sitting all wrapped up in my shop, right now...Hmmm..
>   Don
Hanson
>