Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:29:45 -0800
Reply-To:     Jeffrey Vickers <jeff@VICKERSDESIGN.COM>
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From:         Jeffrey Vickers <jeff@VICKERSDESIGN.COM>
Subject:      Re: Gen Set
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Campgrounds are the worst places to "get away" from civilization. I
only use them when I absolutely have to. I use my Syncro to take me
places that the yahoos can't get to. Spend the money on solar panels a
put a big battery under the rear seat. The panels will never wear out
and require zero maintenance. Leave the TV at home. Nobody "needs" a
generator.

Jeff
On Nov 4, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Automatic digest processor wrote:

> Date:    Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:32:40 -0500
> From:    Doug Alcock <doug.alcock@GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: Gen Set
>
> My pet peeve is the people who think it's OK to crank up their car
> stereo on steroids so it's nice and loud for them at their campfire
> while the car is 30 feet away --- thus allowing everyone on the
> surrounding 50 campsites to hear their music. I don't understand how
> they can not think they might be offending people around them. I am
> not shy about asking these folks to turn down their music and I do it
> very politely. 2/3's will comply willingly -- about 1/3 are astonished
> that I have a problem with it. Those people get a visit from the local
> park ranger, who (amazingly enough) always seems to agree with me.
>
> My wife, daughter and I swear that we are followed around by the Loud
> family -- Mr and Mrs Loud and their family and friends. They often
> camp within a couple of campsites of us and can conduct no
> conversation without shouting and then laughing hilariously. There is
> often alcohol involved -- usually a great deal of it. The F word in
> its various conjugations seems to roll off the alcohol-loosened
> tongues with great frequency and with the amp turned up to 11. These
> people are harder to deal with because they are "just sitting around
> and talking". I will normally ignore and write it off too bad luck. A
> few times when the obscenity level got too high, I have visited the
> campsite and said "I know you people are having a good time and you're
> loud and that's OK but do you have to say F* every 3 F*ing
> seconds??!!!" Oddly enough this seems to work -- but I'd really rather
> not have to do it at all.
>
> There are fewer and fewer really isolated and quiet places to camp --
> and they tend to be a long long drive for me here in Mississauga,
> Ontario.
>
> Guess I'll continue being the grumpy old man who doesn't want anyone
> to have fun..........
>
> Cheers,
> Doug