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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:03:20 -0800
Reply-To:     Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: The Otter Has (CRASH) Landed!
Comments: To: Eric Ley <eric_ley@hotmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <BLU108-DS31FC94ABE0EF7AE45FAEDFDB00@phx.gbl>
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dear inspector vanagon

we should agree that rules vary from province to province and state to state

indeed even from region to region .. as it is i dont need air care test but people just 100 miles away in the same province do require air care test

in Prince Edward Island every vehicle including brand new off the lot never turned a wheel require stem to stern inspection and application of a current decal ... center of window by rear view mirror

stove and sink we are motor home same van as a weekender and you have a station wagon vehicles never registered in bc require an inspection

towing in oregon can be done with any piece of string and a tricycle bc you require a vehicle twice as heavy as the load and fixed bar that allows heavier behicle to control the steering of towed vehicle

up until very recently one could drive anywhere in the yukon with your open container of alcohol ...

i love this variance of reality .. yours

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Eric Ley <eric_ley@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I hate to disagree if you live in Quebec and the vehicle is more then 5 > yr's > old you must pass provincial inspection in order to license it and to > insure > it.... > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jake de Villiers" <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:25 AM > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > > Subject: Re: The Otter Has (CRASH) Landed! > > Its not BC that's setting the bar. There is no Provincial Inspection >> requirement to register an out of country vehicle, its a Federal >> Inspection, >> and the individual shop chooses how close to stick to the rules, just like >> anything else. >> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote: >> >> Well, one thing this reveals is that in B.C. you have safety inspection >>> requirements with some teeth. Here in Oklahoma we aren't even required >>> to >>> have an inspection, period, to register and operate a vehicle. I suppose >>> one could even have a car with no brakes, and register and drive it >>> legally. >>> In fact, lots of vehicles here are involved in accidents due to failure >>> of >>> what one would think would be normal safety features like tires with >>> tread >>> (or lack of tread). No safety inspection, period. David >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:46 PM, neil n wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Pat Sloan wrote: >>> >>>> .... >>>> >>>> >>>> Today I went for the final step - Prov. of BC inspection prior to >>>> >>>>> registering and insuring her. To my great surprise, she failed (!!!!) >>>>> and >>>>> (Gulp). Here's what needs fixing: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Turn signals and 4-way flashers are blinking too quickly. >>>>> Wiring >>>>> issue. A few hours work. >>>>> 2. Left rear bumper missing corner. Allowing sharp edges to catch. >>>>> 3. Fuel lines leaking fuel. Siliconed and held by electrical tape >>>>> 4. Fuel filter not secured >>>>> 5. Multiple stretches of loose wiring. Must be resecured. >>>>> 6. Front wheel bearings have too much end play. Must be replaced. >>>>> 7. Sway bar bushings are cracked - all 4. >>>>> 8. Upper and lower ball joints all have split boots. >>>>> >>>>> I wasn't at a VW garage since, of course, this inspection was only >>>>> going >>>>> to >>>>> be a formality. They estimated that the repairs needed would cost about >>>>> $3000. They referred me to Justin at Capilano VW for a more informed >>>>> opinion. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> There should be tips the Vanagon archives >>>> >>>> http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?S1=vanagon >>>> >>>> on how to deal with eBay sellers. If that's needed/warranted. (there's >>>> also lots of other great info there) >>>> >>>> The bumper cap is not an expensive part. >>>> >>>> Securing the fuel filter(s) should be simple. The metal canister type >>>> is secured to frame with simple parts. Not sure about the square type. >>>> Mine had nothing securing it. >>>> >>>> Sway bar bushings aren't too expensive. (parts) >>>> >>>> The larger part of that cost of upper/lower ball joints and wheel >>>> bearings is labour. i.e. the parts themselves shouldn't be too high. >>>> >>>> Wiring? I bet they saw this while inspecting fuel filter and hoses. >>>> This might simply mean loose wiring harnesses near the frame. As long >>>> as wiring isn't molested in some way, it is *likely* a matter of >>>> securing these harnesses to the frame or wherever. >>>> >>>> Fuel lines have to be done regardless. Just good practice when >>>> purchasing a used Vanagon. Personally I'd consider that a "given". >>>> >>>> I guess what I'm saying, is that this shouldn't be thousands of >>>> dollars to fix. And, except for the poor work done to fuel lines, and >>>> possible messed up wiring, the rest is normal maintenance. >>>> >>>> There are other VW mechanics that could do this work. >>>> >>>> Rudy and Peter Vancouver >>>> Wetmore in West Van >>>> Van Wonder in North Van (he likely has some spare used parts..... >>>> where appropriate) >>>> >>>> >>>> Hopefully that sets your mind at ease. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Neil Nicholson '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" >>>> >>>> http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Jake >> >> 1984 Vanagon GL >> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" >> >> Crescent Beach, BC >> >> www.thebassspa.com >> www.crescentbeachguitar.com >> http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27 >> >>

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