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Date:         Sun, 1 Nov 2009 16:08:39 -0600
Reply-To:     Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Vanagon Winter Survival Kit Question
Comments: To: miguel pacheco <mundopacheco@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <c280e73b0911011351u1014d4c4m7541738f7e301621@mail.gmail.com>
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Well, Yur no Grizzly Adams, but u do smell a little like a bears arse. :-) Michael in San Antonio 91GL AT 'Gringo' 73 Beetle

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:51 PM, miguel pacheco <mundopacheco@gmail.com>wrote:

> At the risk of Bob opening up a can of whup arse on me, the correct > dimension of a cord of wood is 8'(not 16')x4'x4'. Sorry, I just > couldn't stand it, being the mountain man that I am......do I win? > Miguel > > > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Courtney Hook <courtneyhook@shaw.ca> > wrote: > > My woodstove came with a list of the various hardwoods and softwoods and > > their BTU's. It showed a good difference between the oaks (highest BTU's) > > and the softwoods. Just a fact I thought I'd state from the Osburn > woodstove > > site. > > Courtney > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Always be yourself, because the people that matter don't mind, > > and the ones who mind, don't matter. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rob" <becida@COMCAST.NET> > > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:01 AM > > Subject: Re: Vanagon Winter Survival Kit Question > > > > > >> At 11/1/2009 03:23 AM,Mike S wrote: > >>> > >>> At 01:01 AM 11/1/2009, Rob wrote... > >>>> > >>>> Extra heat? That is the wood burning in addition to the wax. > >>> > >>> Hey, just like an artificial log! But, wax holds much more heat > >>> energy than wood, so your claim doesn't make sense, since the one > >>> could just use more wax in place of the wood. (paraffin ~= 20,000 > >>> BTU/lb, wood ~= 6,000) > >> > >> Try it and see or just bad mouth it? > >> > >> > >> > >>> I know what you mean. If you don't study or research things, and > >>> just believe "old wive's tales," then you don't always make good > >>> choices. Don't you wish you had found out sooner that aspen holds > >>> 14.7M BTU/cord, weighs 2290 lbs/cord, and produces 6419 BTU/lb, > >>> while white oak holds 25.7M BTU/cord, and weighs 4012 lbs/cord, > >>> which is 6405 BTU/lb? So, the difference is a full 0.2% in energy > >>> per pound. The US Forest Service ranks pine at the top. > >> > >> > >> The problem here is you are mixing volumes (a cord) with weight. > >> A cord of hardwood has more energy in it than a cord of softwood, a > >> lot more (this is a volume measurement), and it weighs more. You put > >> the same measure (volume) of sawdust in a can and there is more heat > >> in the hardwood saw dust. Putting saw dust in a coffee can is a volume > >> thing. > >> > >> I don't know anything about presto-logs but I have talked to one > >> person who used one of these survival candles. > >> > >> My "claim" is that I talked to someone who used one, it is easy to > >> make and would store well in the back of a Vanagon and if you ever > >> really needed it it might help. What are you claiming on all this? Do > >> you have a point to this? Why are we wasting bandwidth on this? What > >> is your point? > >> > >> Add something useful or stir the pot, <shrug>. I'm tired of dealing > >> with your stirring but will jump back in if you add something useful to > >> this. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Rob > >> becida@comcast.net > > >


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