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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:59:37 -0800
Reply-To:     Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Sliding Door Handle Part?
Comments: To: Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@VERIZON.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <0KSW001DZ6PDWVR4@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net>
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Thanks, Jonce.

That "escutcheon"* was used on 1985 and later vans.

The 1980-1984 vans have a "trim ring" and a "seal." The trim ring is stamped 251-843-711 (my van does not have a seal so I don't know if it has a p/n on it).

The 1985-later vans have an escutcheon and no seal.

Bentley's shows all three parts (see pages 58.2 and 58.18).

I think the escutcheon's p/n is 251-843-711A. BD's search engine brings up the escutcheon when you plug in 251-843-711. I think they are ignoring the "A" suffix and lumping the escutcheon together with the trim ring. Jonce's link shows the escutcheon's p/n with the "A" suffix.

The trim ring and the escutcheon are not physically similar, the former looking like a step washer, the latter more grommet-y.

My 84 van has its trim ring, but is missing the seal. Before I gum up the threads with blue Loctite (or fingernail polish, as Jake suggested) and re-install the door panel, I'd like to determine whether tracking down -- or fabricating -- a seal is worthwhile.

It might have been a black foam flat washer which rotted and fell off like Pascal describes earlier in this thread, or it might have been something more substantial, I can't tell.

================ * Having to come up with words for all these parts must be a challenge.

-- Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") 74 Westrailia: (Ladybug Trailer company, San Juan Capistrano, Calif.) Bend, OR KG6RCR

On 11/10/2009 4:00 AM Jonce Fancher wrote:

> Hi > Not sure if this is what your looking for. Replaced mine and it work > and looks great. > C-ya Jonce > http://www.oeveedub.com/vw/vanagon-door-handles/251-843-711A.html > > >> Mike, >> >> That thin little plastic sticker around the slider handle hole is >> there to >> protect the paint from the escutcheon that move a bit when operating the >> handle. The escutcheon for the '84 is NLA, but do a search on eBay for >> "delrin vanagon" and someone is making a nice replacement part. I >> replaced my escutcheon with the derin one and it's a nice fit. The seal >> you mention that is missing is a foam ring, that was missing on mine as >> well and I got a replacement one from the Bus Depot a few years back. >> I'm >> not quite sure what that seal does, it might simply be a dust seal. When >> you replace the screw that holds the handle, make sure to put a drop of >> blue loctite on it's threads. >> >> Pascal >> '84Westy >


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