Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:54:23 -0800
Reply-To:     BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: NVC ... but just in case you were thinking of a cheap $$
              camera ... Camera dealers online and addressed in New York State
              fraudulent
Comments: To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
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dear past your bedtime,

this post came in 12:28am on Saturday Pacific Standard Time. Since it  

is now 12:51am, it is clearly no longer Friday.

Please refrain from any further responses to this thread or at the  
very least, wait until NEXT Friday.

Thx,
Yours too.

Sent from my mobile device

On Nov 21, 2009, at 12:28 AM, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>  

wrote:

> dear camera sorts
> i used profeel http://www.profeel.com/ to make a purchase of a video  

> camera
> 4 years ago
> i purchased a Panasonic DVC Pro20 .. the price was great and customer
> service was excellent
> up-sell was only for items required and priced competitively
> yours
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Peter DiFalco <peter.difalco@gmail.com 
> >wrote:
>
>> I know people who've been snookered by these crooks. They are the
>> worst sort of people and it's clear from the number of DBAs their
>> businesses have that they were attempting to be slippery and
>> anonymous. It's wonderful that in our Vanagon hobby/lifestyle we are
>> not cursed, by and large, by the same kind of commercial vermin.  I
>> personally appreciate the way this community goes out of its way to
>> praise the better dealers and hold accountable those who fail to make
>> good on promises.
>>
>> -Peter
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@gmail.com 
>> >
>> wrote:
>>> from video magazine (online)
>>> see list below story
>>>
>>> We have received word that seven different New York-based e-commerce
>> sites
>>> selling camcorders have settled with the New York State Attorney
>> General’s
>>> office<
>> http://videopia.org/index.php/read/shorts-mainmenu-235/493-no-sleep-til-crooklyn.html
>>> for
>>> engaging in fraudulent business practices. (Two of these companies  

>>> are
>>> going out of business completely. Of the remaining five, two are  
>>> leaving
>> New
>>> York State, but all have agreed to be bound by New York law and be
>> monitored
>>> by the New York Attorney General’s office.)
>>>
>>> According to New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, “These comp 
>>> anies
>>> engaged in the worst kinds of consumer fraud, from classic
>> bait-and-switch
>>> schemes to blatant lies and bullying sales tactics.” These tactics
>> included
>>> advertising at extremely low prices and then trying to upsell
>> accessories,
>>> but if the person ordering turned down the accessories, the  
>>> product that
>>> they were trying to order was claimed to be backordered, or the  
>>> company
>>> would simply cancel the order.
>>>
>>> We have received reports from readers who have been burned by
>> unscrupulous
>>> mail order companies in the past, so we hope that this settlement
>> agreement
>>> ultimately makes it easier for customers to find good deals from
>> legitimate
>>> merchants.
>>>
>>> If you have dealt with one of the listed
>>> companies<
>> http://hdguru.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/list-of-bait-and-switch-e-tailers.pdf
>>> ,
>>> you may be able to get restitution; claims will be administered by  

>>> the
>> New
>>> York Better Business Bureau <http://newyork.bbb.org/>. The window  

>>> for
>> claims
>>> will be open from July 1 to December 31.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Untitled
>>> INVESTIGATION OF ON-LINE CONSUMER ELECTRONICS MERCHANTS
>>> List of company addresses and d/b/a names for restitution funds:
>>> ● 1 Way Photo: J&V Marketing, Inc., One Way Photo, 1 Way Photo,
>>> 1wayphoto, Lenses n’ More, LensesNMore, 1WAYPHOTO.COM, and
>>> LENSESNMORE.COM.
>>> § Address: 5409 18th Avenue, Brooklyn, New York 11204.
>>> ● 86th Street Photo: 86th Street Photo, Inc. and Y.E.S.
>>> International LLC d/b/a 86th Street Photo & Video, My Wireless Deal,
>>> Wise Tronics, Wisetronics, 86PHOTOVIDEO.COM, and WISETRONICS.COM.
>>> § Address: 2845 86th Street, Brooklyn, NY 11223.
>>> ● Best Price Cameras: C&M Photo Corporation and J&K Cameras, Inc.
>>> d/b/a Best Price Cameras, Century 21 Electronics, Enterprise Photo,
>>> Infiniti Cameras, Infiniti Photo, Infinity Cameras, Mr. Accessory,  

>>> New
>>> World Electronics, New World Camera, Photo Dynasty,  
>>> PhotoDynasty.com,
>>> Razz Photo, Sharp Digital Direct, Shop Digital Direct,
>>> BESTPRICECAMERAS.COM, BESTSTOPCAMERA.COM, CENTURY21ELECTRONICS.COM,
>>> EASTCOASTDISTRIBUTOR.COM, ENTERPRISEPHOTO.COM, INFINITICAMERAS.COM,
>>> INFINITIPHOTO.COM, INFINITYCAMERAS.COM, JANDKCAMERAS.COM,
>>> MRACCESSORY.COM, PHOTODYNASTY.COM, RAZZPHOTO.COM, and
>>> SHOPDIGITALDIRECT.COM.
>>> § Address: 1965 McDonald Avenue, Brooklyn, New York 11223.
>>> ● Broadway Photo: Broadway Photo LLC, A&M Photo World LLC, Camera
>>> Addict LLC, Camera Kings, Digital Liquidators LLC, Millennium Camera
>>> LLC, Preferred Photo LLC, Prestige Camera LLC, Qwest Camera LLC,  
>>> Regal
>>> Camera LLC, Top Choice Digital Enterprise LLC, Top Choice Digital  

>>> World
>>> Inc., Wild Digital LLC, BROADWAYPHOTO.COM, BWAYPHOTO.COM,
>>> BROADWAYPHOTO.NET, BROADWAYPHOTOVIDEO.COM, AMPHOTOWORLD.COM,
>>> CAMERAADDICT.COM, CAMERAKINGS.COM, DIGITALLIQUIDATORS.COM,
>>> PREFEREDPHOTO.COM, PREFERREDPHOTO.COM, PREFFEREDPHOTO.COM,
>>> PRESTIGECAMERA.COM, QUEST4CAMERAS.COM, REGALCAMERA.COM,
>>> TOPCHOICEDIGITAL.COM, and WILDDIGITAL.COM.
>>> § Address: 337 East 89th Street, Brooklyn, New York 11236.
>>> ● Camera Whiz: Camera Whiz, Camera Wiz, Digital Expo, Digital
>>> Nerds, Digital Superdeals, I.N.S. Digital World, INS Digital  
>>> World, J&J
>>> Digital, Regal Cameras, Stargate Photo, Inc., Starlight Camera,
>>> Starlight Camera & Video, Technon Digital, TechOnDigital, Wawa  
>>> Digital,
>>> ACCESSORIESLAND.COM, CAMERAWHIZ.COM, DIGITALEBUYS.COM, DIGITALEXPO.COM 
>>> ,
>>> DIGITALNERDS.COM, DIGITALSUPERDEALS.COM, INSDIGITALWORLD.COM,
>>> REGALCAMERAS.COM, STARGATEPHOTO.COM, STARLIGHTCAMERA.COM,
>>> TECHONDIGITAL.COM, THECAMERAWHIZ.COM, THEDIGITALNERDS.COM,
>>> THEDIGITALEXPO.COM, and WAWADIGITAL.COM.
>>> § Address: 83 Avenue O, Brooklyn, NY 11234.
>>> .
>>> ● Foto Connection: Foto Connection and FOTO CONNECTION.COM, INC.
>>> d/b/a 1 Stop Camera & Computer, 1 Stop Camera & Electronics, 4 U
>>> Digital, Digital Net Shop, EPhoto Club, Fotoconnection, INOAX, One  

>>> Stop
>>> Camera & Computer, One Stop Camera & Electronics, Rite Buys,  
>>> Superior
>>> Deals, Inc., The Wiz Store, TVs Depot, 1STOPCAMERA.COM, 4UDIGITAL.COM 
>>> ,
>>> DIGITALNETSHOP.COM, EPHOTOCLUB.COM, FOTOCONNECTION.COM, GBSSHOPPING.COM 
>>> ,
>>> GREATBRANDSSHOPPING.COM, HOMEGOODZ.COM, INOAX.COM, INAOX.COM,
>>> ONESTOPCAMERA.COM, RITEBUYS.COM, SUPERIORDEALZ.COM,
>>> THENEWCONNECTION.COM, THEWIZSTORE.COM, THE WIZSTORES.COM, and
>>> TVSDEPOT.COM.
>>> § Address: 1122 Coney Island Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11234.
>>> ● Sonic Cameras: GZ Group, Inc. d/b/a Sonic Cameras and
>>> Page 1
>>> Untitled
>>> SONICCAMERAS.COM.
>>> § 3505 Quentin Road, Brooklyn, New York 11234.
>>>
>>> --
>>> roger w
>>> From Proverbs:
>>> Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear  
>>> up: a
>>> servant who becomes king ...
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> Explore printed work at: http://www.prliving.ca/
>>> View the growing list of video work at:
>>> http://revver.com/find/video/?query=LastonLastof&search_on=owners
>>> and ... older work at
>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7135104650374818257
>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3259745150182742364
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> roger w
> From Proverbs:
> Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear up: a
> servant who becomes king ...
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Explore printed work at: http://www.prliving.ca/
> View the growing list of video work at:
> http://revver.com/find/video/?query=LastonLastof&search_on=owners
> and ... older work at
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7135104650374818257
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3259745150182742364