Vanagon EuroVan
Previous messageNext messagePrevious in topicNext in topicPrevious by same authorNext by same authorPrevious page (November 2009, week 4)Back to main VANAGON pageJoin or leave VANAGON (or change settings)ReplyPost a new messageSearchProportional fontNon-proportional font
Date:         Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:56:18 -0600
Reply-To:     John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: vanagon speed (was Re: Heart vs. Head
Comments: To: Joy Hecht <jhecht@ALUM.MIT.EDU>
In-Reply-To:  <6e95da690911272038q2e22458ctf3a7a484407ed713@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

As a pilot - I have flown the big boys at 30,000 feet doing 60o mph, and I have flown the little guys like J-3 Piper Cubs at 300 feet. You don't see much at Flight Level 300 going 600 mph.

There was in my younger flying days a saying amongst pilots:

"Fly lo' and slo' an' enjoy it mo'!" :-)

The Vanagons of all stripes are those J-3 Cubs - and even today - those powered hang gliders - the ultralights.

Get off the interstates, drive 55 - and less - and enjoy the drive an the scenery.

Even the long drives over the vast distances of the Great Plains offer a lot to see at that slower speed. How about watching the hawks ride the pressure wave at the edge of the highway shoulder where it rises up out of the plains to elevate that great ribbon of asphalt that makes interstate 70 connecting Denver to Kansas City. When you drive slower you can watch the birds sail along the highway shoulder on that pressure wave caused by the wind as it rises up over the highway shoulder obstruction. The hawks ride it like a surfer on a big wave at Waikiki. Or how about counting and watching the play of the pronghorn antelope one encounters out west along the highways. And then there is the rare beauty of the deer herd having a drink out in the shallows of a river in Wyoming where the water runs under a bridge - a sight not seen by those fly by at high speeds - they don't have time to look. Or how about having time to slow down sufficiently to watch a Sage Grouse hen cross the road with her brood of 12 chicks.

Yup - I'm old now, but I still "Fly slo and enjoy it mo'!" :-)

Vanagons Forever!!!

John Rodgers 88 GL Driver Chelsea, AL

Joy Hecht wrote: > Well of course vanagons are slow! They have low-power engines and they are > heavy. They are slow on flat ground - of course they are even slower going > up long grades. On long gradual grades, the kind you don't see with the > eye, I find myself not going above the 50s, if that - the lack of power is > how I realize I'm on a grade. Steep hills I do at 20-25 mph. Definitely > you're going to climb to the continental divide in the right lane with the > 18-wheelers while cars and SUVs rush past in the left lane. > > If you wanted a vehicle that would make good time on long drives, why would > you have a vanagon? > > > > Joy > > > > >> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Mark Hineline <hineline@helix.ucsd.edu >> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Okay, a couple of points to consider. >>> >>> First, I had a '76 bus named Peregrine. Greg mentioned my trials and >>> tribulations with Peregrine. >>> >>> Second, and this is really the kicker, my number one destination is >>> the Colorado Plateau -- Grand Canyon, Flagstaff, Cedar Mesa. From San >>> Diego thats' 500 to 600 miles and an 8000 foot gain in elevation. In >>> my GTI I can do it in 7 hours. I'm guessing that in a watercooled >>> Vanagon I'm looking at 10 to 12 hours for the same trip. >>> >>> Sound right? Are Vanagons slow pulling long grades? >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> > >


Back to: Top of message | Previous page | Main VANAGON page

Please note - During the past 17 years of operation, several gigabytes of Vanagon mail messages have been archived. Searching the entire collection will take up to five minutes to complete. Please be patient!


Return to the archives @ gerry.vanagon.com


The vanagon mailing list archives are copyright (c) 1994-2011, and may not be reproduced without the express written permission of the list administrators. Posting messages to this mailing list grants a license to the mailing list administrators to reproduce the message in a compilation, either printed or electronic. All compilations will be not-for-profit, with any excess proceeds going to the Vanagon mailing list.

Any profits from list compilations go exclusively towards the management and operation of the Vanagon mailing list and vanagon mailing list web site.