Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:16:51 -0800
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From: neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Conversion? JETTA ENGINE??
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On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Mark Dearing <VWBrain@aol.com> wrote:
> hey Guys I just did this conversion using a 92 jetta motor into my 1985
> westy, I used the vannie diesel bellhousing, mounts, oil pan , oil pick up
> , flywheel etc. I kept the vannie control system complete works great,
> runs good , fair gas mileage. fits under the engine cover looks factory.
> later mark dearing salem import service salem va
>
This speaks highly of choosing the DIY path IMO.
As for Tiico, I have read that the actual mount angle has little if
anything to do with engine vibrations transferring to the body.
Basically you need hydro mounts, stable mount brackets and stable
carriers. I bet there's lot's re: Tiico vibrations on the Tiico Yahoo
user group.
Frank Grunthaner posts have great info. And Alistair Bell has lots of
great info/pics in his website. (including some from Frank himself).
i.e. this:
http://www.members.shaw.ca/albell/mounts_TiiCO.html
or this from Frank:
http://www.members.shaw.ca/albell/mounts_FG.html
Scanning some of that now reconfirms what little I know about
isolating engine vibrations.
Of note, do the later model NA Vanagons NOT have the forward mount
points for the DV carriers? If they don't, I would assume that if the
DV carrier is mounted at those points, and the metal is too thin, the
vibrations might be amplified and/or that area might get weakened.
I have a 2.0L ABA stock mounted at 15 degrees (much more upright).
There are no vibrations at idle, and it's fairly quiet while cruising
at speed. The only vibrations I *hear* (I don't really feel much....
maybe I'm just used to it) are under acceleration at mid RPM's. (sorry
no tach.... yet!) But. NOwhere near the vibrations I've read of with
some Tiicos. Like some have written that there side mirrors would
shake!
I'm using Fox motor mounts and brackets one of which has been modified
to clear the oil filter/cooler/lower rad hose. In spite of that, this
bracket seems to be faring well. (no cracks) I have mounted the home
made carrier to the frame with 3 fasteners per end. This is the same
thick part of the frame that the original engine carrier was mounted
to.
Pic of unfinished work, but shows where carrier mounts
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_01e3MpPuKwI/Sz1mXQVke6I/AAAAAAAACOI/Fw5TMbj7_pQ/s640/mount2.jpg
Neil.
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Neil Nicholson '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco"
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